SGC is cranking on recent subs....WOW!!!!!!!

[TobaccoKing4]

Originally Posted by hcv123

I sent in a sub on March 12th. Tracking shows delivered March 17th. SGC still not showing it as "received"?

I would reach out to their customer service if you never got an email from them that confirmed they received your order by now.

[Mutton Chop Yaz]

I submitted a batch including raw cards, crossovers, and a reholder that was received on March 15. It's in post-grading processing as of this morning.

[jchcollins]

My 2 card Mantle submission was turned around in 7 business days - arrived 3/12 and shipped back yesterday. I'd say that's more than reasonable for $75 all in including shipping. I should hopefully have them back in my hot little hands on Friday.

[Frankish]

Today when I try to visit the SGC website, all of my browsers try to steer me away saying it isn't safe. Does anyone know if there is an issue there right now? Or maybe safari, chrome, and Firefox are all just haywire this morning....

[Mutton Chop Yaz]

I'm seeing the same thing. I imagine their IT is on this (or will be shortly).

[Mutton Chop Yaz]

Back up!

[Frankish]

It is back up, thanks. And I was able to get in touch with SGC. I'll probably send off a shipment of 50s Topps cards I've been meaning to get graded.

One thing I learned, though, is that they seemed to have narrowed their focus quite a bit. I wrote to customer service asking about a number of vintage Japanese cards that they've graded in the past (almost all of them are available at various dealers in SGC slabs right now) and was told that they do not currently grade these issues.

It makes sense. Streamlining their focus to the most commonly graded sets and steering away from less popular sets should let them streamline their operations and help avoid backlog issues seen at some of the other grading companies. Inconvenient for me at the moment, but probably a good move for the company....

[hcv123]

Originally Posted by TobaccoKing4

I would reach out to their customer service if you never got an email from them that confirmed they received your order by now.

I did reach out to customer service by email 2 days ago(have not seen a response to that email yet).

This morning I received a "received" email for my submission - so they got it 3/17. Logged it received 3/25. Showing on their website as in "post grading processing". To be continued.....

[Mutton Chop Yaz]

I got clobbered on my PSA crossovers, for anyone wondering about comparative grading standards.

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by Mutton Chop Yaz

I got clobbered on my PSA crossovers, for anyone wondering about comparative grading standards.

Ya...I've had some real head scratchers from SGC recently. They are much tougher than PSA...atleast on pre wwi imo. Amazing how the masses have been mislead?

[bks14sr]

Originally Posted by Mutton Chop Yaz

I got clobbered on my PSA crossovers, for anyone wondering about comparative grading standards.

Could you give some details?

[BabyRuth]

My order was received at SGC on 3/10, they shipped them back on 3/19 and I had the cards in hand on 3/22. Luckily, I started my submission form on 3/1 and got the $15/card rate!!! I'm not so sure I'll be sending anything in at the new price level of $25/card.

[Mutton Chop Yaz]

Originally Posted by bks14sr

Could you give some details?

Three post-war (50s and 60s) cards in older PSA holders. I planned to cross them over because I prefer the SGC holder, think they're more consistent at grading vintage and pre-war, and simply think they run a better operation than PSA. I sent them in expecting grade reductions and picked minimum grades that I thought left plenty of room (up to a full grade lower). One came back .5 lower and the other two didn't meet the minimum standard. I should have sent them in for any numerical grade, which is what I'll likely do now.

[Oscar_Stanage]

Originally Posted by Mutton Chop Yaz

Three post-war (50s and 60s) cards in older PSA holders. I planned to cross them over because I prefer the SGC holder, think they're more consistent at grading vintage and pre-war, and simply think they run a better operation than PSA. I sent them in expecting grade reductions and picked minimum grades that I thought left plenty of room (up to a full grade lower). One came back .5 lower and the other two didn't meet the minimum standard. I should have sent them in for any numerical grade, which is what I'll likely do now.

I think this has to do with age of the grade. its a myth that any of the big 3 have 'tougher' standards. the fact is, 5 years ago everyone was grading on a looser scale. So if you cross an old PSA graded card to SGC (or an old SGC graded card to PSA) you are going to take a hit. this would not be a problem if everyone was 'buying the card' - the numerical grade should not matter.... but unfortunately, sellers are able to sell overgraded cards at their slabbed grade price. Not enough buyers are forcing their hands at the moment.

[Mutton Chop Yaz]

Originally Posted by Wid_Conroy

I think this has to do with age of the grade. its a myth that any of the big 3 have 'tougher' standards. the fact is, 5 years ago everyone was grading on a looser scale. So if you cross an old PSA graded card to SGC (or an old SGC graded card to PSA) you are going to take a hit. this would not be a problem if everyone was 'buying the card' - the numerical grade should not matter.... but unfortunately, sellers are able to sell overgraded cards at their slabbed grade price. Not enough buyers are forcing their hands at the moment.

We agree, I think. I expected a drop based on my own evaluation of the cards vs. the grade they had been assigned and the passage of time and thought I'd accounted for that. Not so. This was not to say that SGC is "tougher" than PSA, but that attributing "toughness" to PSA as some sort of standard bearer is misguided.

[drmondobueno]

Originally Posted by Mutton Chop Yaz

I got clobbered on my PSA crossovers, for anyone wondering about comparative grading standards.

Hey MC

I have gotten clobbered by both companies when attempting a crossover. Just sayin’.

[hcv123]

Originally Posted by hcv123

I did reach out to customer service by email 2 days ago(have not seen a response to that email yet).

This morning I received a "received" email for my submission - so they got it 3/17. Logged it received 3/25. Showing on their website as in "post grading processing". To be continued.....

WOW!! As stated tracking shows my order received on the 17th. SGC logged it received March 25th - I am staring at my graded cards that I just received back!! The turnaround was INSANELY fast!!

Some thoughts:

1) As most of these cards are to sell, here is the way I see it - I would have to get $75 more per card just to cover the difference in grading fees if I went with PSA AND that doesn't account for the time value factor which is HUGE with PSA now - I have Thousdands of dollars in cards sitting at PSA in 5 separate orders, the oldest of which they received in July 2020 and HAVE NO IDEA WHEN I'LL SEE THEM AGAIN. Tying up inventory indefinitely/ for that length of time has a huge cost!! I think this is a real potential opportunity for SGC.

2) In terms of grades (and my opinion): 18 came back graded "right". 1 came back overgraded. 6 came back undergraded (3 of them GROSSLY undergraded).

3) SGC will be seeing more of my business!

[vthobby]

Originally Posted by hcv123

WOW!! As stated tracking shows my order received on the 17th. SGC logged it received March 25th - I am staring at my graded cards that I just received back!! The turnaround was INSANELY fast!!

Some thoughts:

1) As most of these cards are to sell, here is the way I see it - I would have to get $75 more per card just to cover the difference in grading fees if I went with PSA AND that doesn't account for the time value factor which is HUGE with PSA now - I have Thousdands of dollars in cards sitting at PSA in 5 separate orders, the oldest of which they received in July 2020 and HAVE NO IDEA WHEN I'LL SEE THEM AGAIN. Tying up inventory indefinitely/ for that length of time has a huge cost!! I think this is a real potential opportunity for SGC.

2) In terms of grades (and my opinion): 18 came back graded "right". 1 came back overgraded. 6 came back undergraded (3 of them GROSSLY undergraded).

3) SGC will be seeing more of my business!

Howard,

Thanks for sharing and your honesty on how you felt they graded your gems.
When I started this post just a few weeks ago in early March, i could not imagine it would have almost 10,000 views in a few weeks! I think SGC is a very obvious choice for informed and frustrated collectors and I'm glad to see others have figured that out. $25 a card is really a steal when you can actually hold your graded gem a mere month or less after you ship!

Thanks!

Peaxe, Mike

[kmac32]

Cards logged on March 22 are on their way back according to the. Email I just got from SGC today. So much better than my last experience with SGC. Not tHat I have that many cards graded but a 4 1/2 month wait was out of control. Restored my confidence in SGC for now. Have some higher dollar slabs that I would like to cross over to SGC for my display case.

[kmac32]

Cards were logged 3/22/21 and in my hands 4/3/21. 12 days for a standard submission, much better than the 4 1/2 months that the last submission took. Fortunately this was at he $25 price. Glad I got them in before the price tripled. Fortunately most of my collections are nearly complete so won’t have much to submit in the future so price increases do not really affect me.

[tsp06]

Anyone see the SGC increase again? $75 per card. I'm out for now.