Various T205 Variations of Danny Hoffman

[Mrc32]

I'd love to see a new variation be found.

But these just look like printing differences, rather than printing mistakes/corrections which would lead me to believe it was a variation.

[btcarfagno]

Does the yellow/white base issue exist on any other card? If so I would agree that it is likely a printing issue at the top of the card. If, however, there are no other known cards with this "yellow base" issue, then I believe that Andy may well be onto something.

Tom C

[bn2cardz]

Originally Posted by Mrc32

I'd love to see a new variation be found.

But these just look like printing differences, rather than printing mistakes/corrections which would lead me to believe it was a variation.

There are multiples of each type. These are not one offs.

I haven't done a lot of research and was hoping someone that has looked at the set longer could add to the info I already have quickly found in the last year.
The White 2nd Base I have seen on Sovereign and Piedmont
The white 2nd Base lack of facial detail (includes a yellow triangle near first base) has only been on Piedmont that I have seen. I own one (not pictured, and doesn't have a severe gold offset as the one pictured) and the pictured one is from the Library of Congress scans. Looking through the scans on CardTarget I couldn't find another. I thought the Library of Congress one was just a bad scan until I saw one on ebay and took a chance and now have it in hand to know that it really does exist.

[bn2cardz]

Here is card 4 (the lack of facial detail with the white base and triangle of yellow on base paths near first base) that I had recently acquired showing that there are, at the very least, two of this version.


What I see is what is a light brown/tan is replaced with black ink or missing all together. This causes a lack of definition in the cheeks and nose, while adding a darkness to the eyes, forehead, and neck/chin.

[Econteachert205]

Andy, NIce pickup on that recent Hoffmann. I was following that and curious as to all of the action. I messaged the seller asking whether it was a scan isssue or if it really looked that way. It's a beautiful card. I have two Hoffmann's, one with the stripe and one without, will have to check on which variation tonight.

[bn2cardz]

Originally Posted by Econteachert205

Andy, NIce pickup on that recent Hoffmann. I was following that and curious as to all of the action. I messaged the seller asking whether it was a scan isssue or if it really looked that way. It's a beautiful card. I have two Hoffmann's, one with the stripe and one without, will have to check on which variation tonight.

I was ecstatic to see it. I had a max bid that if it hit would have set a new record for t205 hoffmans graded 4, but I had to see it in person to see if it matched the scan and the scan from LOC and didn't want to risk losing out on it.

[whelenfan]

nice research.

[T205 GB]

Nice work Andy

[bn2cardz]

Originally Posted by whelenfan

nice research.

I am hoping people with larger collections can help after I threw out the small nuggets. I was wanting to go through Cardtarget, but they haven't had t205 information for a few days now. I don't have a VCP account anymore so I am just not easily able to research what cards are found with each back.

I have found that Piedmonts seem to come up less than Sovereigns and Polar Bear for Hoffman, so it has been hard to figure out how wide spread the "lack of detail" print anomaly really is. It could be something that vary's as the print run was going on. Also I am pretty sure I saw polar bear with and without the white base, but that was the only back I saw that with. Again I am not positive because there were things I started noticing before trying to actually track them. That is why I would love the help of others that know more about the set (or have more saved scans).