Gun ownership poll

[G1911]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Move a few police officers from traffic details where you have two officers supervising one minor repair to guarding schools?

Oh I agree with you personally, but there has never been one of these incidents in which the gun banners were willing to consider any real legislation besides more regulation on a right generally utilized by their political enemies.

I don’t think it’s about trying to actually address the problem ina meaningful way for anti-2nd legislators, it’s about criminalizing their political opposition.

[BobbyStrawberry]

Originally Posted by G1911

I don’t think it’s about trying to actually address the problem ina meaningful way for anti-2nd legislators, it’s about criminalizing their political opposition.

Here is a list of some laws passed in Connecticut after 20 children and 6 adults were murdered at Sandy Hook Elementary School in 2012:

https://patch.com/connecticut/across...-hook-shooting

For some of these, it seems quite a stretch to describe them as "for the purpose of criminalizing the political opposition".

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry

Here is a list of some laws passed in Connecticut after 20 children and 6 adults were murdered at Sandy Hook Elementary School in 2012:

https://patch.com/connecticut/across...-hook-shooting

For some of these, it seems quite a stretch to describe them as "for the purpose of criminalizing the political opposition".

Adam Lanza used his mother's gun, no?

[BobbyStrawberry]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Adam Lanza used his mother's gun, no?

Yes, he did.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry

Yes, he did.

So all the legislation in the world wouldn't have prevented it. Minimal security at the school might have, though.

[BobbyStrawberry]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

So all the legislation in the world wouldn't have prevented it. Minimal security at the school might have, though.

That may or may not be true. I believe they also passed laws regarding storage of firearms in homes/vehicles, but I'd have to look that up.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry

Here is a list of some laws passed in Connecticut after 20 children and 6 adults were murdered at Sandy Hook Elementary School in 2012:

https://patch.com/connecticut/across...-hook-shooting

For some of these, it seems quite a stretch to describe them as "for the purpose of criminalizing the political opposition".

“Assault weapon” and “high capacity magazine” bans as this article leads off with are exactly what I’m talking about. These accomplish absolutely nothing, there is no evidence that they do. There is considerable evidence that they don’t. These are commonly owned normal firearms and parts and have been for over half a century. Banning standard capacity magazines does not save a single person. All it does is punish the other side.

Both sides like to trample on rights mostly used by the other side. Many of their voters will have a genuine sentiment, whether it’s the left thinking the State can somehow regulate guns to the point that a paradise comes into being or the right thinking that the murder of a fetus is a great moral wrong. Banning standard magazines, passing a bounty law to reward people who report their neighbors for abortions, politicians are well aware this does not actually address a real problem, it’s just to fire shots at their political opposition. I think it is a shame when they choose to do this instead of apply any reason to the problem.

[BobbyStrawberry]

Originally Posted by G1911

“Assault weapon” and “high capacity magazine” bans as this article leads off with are exactly what I’m talking about. These accomplish absolutely nothing, there is no evidence that they do. There is considerable evidence that they don’t. These are commonly owned normal firearms and parts and have been for over half a century. Banning standard capacity magazines does not save a single person. All it does is punish the other side.

Both sides like to trample on rights mostly used by the other side. Many of their voters will have a genuine sentiment, whether it’s the left thinking the State can somehow regulate guns to the point that a paradise comes into being or the right thinking that the murder of a fetus is a great moral wrong. Banning standard magazines, passing a bounty law to reward people who report their neighbors for abortions, politicians are well aware this does not actually address a real problem, it’s just to fire shots at their political opposition. I think it is a shame when they choose to do this instead of apply any reason to the problem.

Fair points and I understand where you're coming from. I recall reading that there was actually a drop in gun-related deaths in the years after these laws were passed, but there are obviously many factors to consider in evaluating that.