Opinion on Mantle Inscription

[Michael Frost]

[QUOTE=shelly;1198115]I am sure these where not your letters of authenticity.

Shelly, this is old news that has been straighted out a long time ago. It would be the same as me "saying that you are a two bit con man that was a rat and went to prison over selling fake autographs." I do not know what your issues with me may be but I am sure jealousy would have a lot to do with it. I never tried to correct any of yours or Christopher's mistakes and I am not looking to steal the spot like or have my name on TV and Blog sites. I am a successful leader in the autograph industry and I have all the proof and credentials need to prove my point. You and the other half ass experts and trouble makers can continue your games and have your fun. Just know that you and Chris are the reason nothing is being done about the fake autographs all over the Internet and throughout the industry. If you would have some credibility and use facts instead of making a fool out of yourself and talking rumors, and stories without facts, knowledge or evidence you maybe would be heard or taken seriously. What your fight is with me is still hard to understand but I can assure you can not play in the same game as me.

[thetruthisoutthere]

[QUOTE=Michael Frost;1198124]

Originally Posted by shelly

I am sure these where not your letters of authenticity.

Shelly, this is old news that has been straighted out a long time ago. It would be the same as me "saying that you are a two bit con man that was a rat and went to prison over selling fake autographs." I do not know what your issues with me may be but I am sure jealousy would have a lot to do with it. I never tried to correct any of yours or Christopher's mistakes and I am not looking to steal the spot like or have my name on TV and Blog sites. I am a successful leader in the autograph industry and I have all the proof and credentials need to prove my point. You and the other half ass experts and trouble makers can continue your games and have your fun. Just know that you and Chris are the reason nothing is being done about the fake autographs all over the Internet and throughout the industry. If you would have some credibility and use facts instead of making a fool out of yourself and talking rumors, and stories without facts, knowledge or evidence you maybe would be heard or taken seriously. What your fight is with me is still hard to understand but I can assure you can not play in the same game as me.

So you bringing up Shelly's past (14 years) isn't old news?

[shelly]

I also usually do not save stuff because much of it is so bad, but this
i had to save. when i was doing the hbo sports show I showed them a lot of bad mantles like this one. this comes from someone who did prvt signings and claimed to be a close friend of Mantle.

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[Michael Frost]

[QUOTE=shelly;1198142]I also usually do not save stuff because much of it is so bad, but this
i had to save. when i was doing the hbo sports show I showed them a lot of bad mantles like this one. this comes from someone who did prvt signings and claimed to be a close friend of Mantle.


Shelly, you are a true joke as well as most of what you have to say. Can you 1st explain to our audience the issues with the autograph that you have just posted.

[RichardSimon]

I have tried to avoid being involved in this thread but I do have to state that Shelly's opinion is held in high regard on this forum.
His accuracy is probably 90% or better on autographs he comments on.

[Michael Frost]

Originally Posted by RichardSimon

I have tried to avoid being involved in this thread but I do have to state that Shelly's opinion is held in high regard on this forum.
His accuracy is probably 90% or better on autographs he comments on.

Now that you are involved can you please give your expert opinion on the Mantle and Martin posted by Shelly.?

[shelly]

Originally Posted by RichardSimon

I have tried to avoid being involved in this thread but I do have to state that Shelly's opinion is held in high regard on this forum.
His accuracy is probably 90% or better on autographs he comments on.

Mike, here is a bet. $1000 sent to Leon. We will send this to Psa or Jsa and see if it is authentic or not. Put up or shut up. Money is being sent to Leon via Pay Pal if you take the bet.

[Michael Frost]

Originally Posted by shelly

Mike, here is a bet. $1000 sent to Leon. We will send this to Psa or Jsa and see if it is authentic or not. Put up or shut up. Money is being sent to Leon via Pay Pal if you take the bet.

That sounds like an interesting proposition coming from you Shelly.
I am not sure about the bet and have just a couple of question about this item in question.
1st- are you saying that this item came from me?
2nd- Was this item examined and authenticated by me?
3rd - Are you stating that is my Letter of Authenticity and my signature?
4th - What is the size of the photograph in question?
5th- Are you saying the Mickey Mantle and the Billy Martin on the photo are both forgeries?
6th - Are you stating that JSA and or PSA/DNA would be the deciding factor in the authentication.
7th - Who would you say would be more knowledgeable on this subject Jimmy Spence or Steve Grad.

[thetruthisoutthere]

[QUOTE=Michael Frost;1198149]

Originally Posted by shelly

I also usually do not save stuff because much of it is so bad, but this
i had to save. when i was doing the hbo sports show I showed them a lot of bad mantles like this one. this comes from someone who did prvt signings and claimed to be a close friend of Mantle.


Shelly, you are a true joke as well as most of what you have to say. Can you 1st explain to our audience the issues with the autograph that you have just posted.

Seriously? Holy crap!!!

That Mantle is awful.

[novakjr]

[QUOTE=Michael Frost;1198149]

Originally Posted by shelly

Shelly, you are a true joke as well as most of what you have to say. Can you 1st explain to our audience the issues with the autograph that you have just posted.

Michael, I'm not trying to pile on here. I'm no expert, but even I know that the one that Shelly posted is REALLY BAD...

[thetruthisoutthere]

[QUOTE=Michael Frost;1198124]

Originally Posted by shelly

I am sure these where not your letters of authenticity.

Shelly, this is old news that has been straighted out a long time ago. It would be the same as me "saying that you are a two bit con man that was a rat and went to prison over selling fake autographs." I do not know what your issues with me may be but I am sure jealousy would have a lot to do with it. I never tried to correct any of yours or Christopher's mistakes and I am not looking to steal the spot like or have my name on TV and Blog sites. I am a successful leader in the autograph industry and I have all the proof and credentials need to prove my point. You and the other half ass experts and trouble makers can continue your games and have your fun. Just know that you and Chris are the reason nothing is being done about the fake autographs all over the Internet and throughout the industry. If you would have some credibility and use facts instead of making a fool out of yourself and talking rumors, and stories without facts, knowledge or evidence you maybe would be heard or taken seriously. What your fight is with me is still hard to understand but I can assure you can not play in the same game as me.

Thank you.

[Westsiders]

[QUOTE=thetruthisoutthere;1198509]

Originally Posted by Michael Frost

Thank you.

Way to reel them in...hook, line, and sinker

[thetruthisoutthere]

I stand by previous comments that both Mantle/Martin autograph pieces are not authentic.

If both pieces were submitted to PSA today, I believe they would be rejected.

[Michael Frost]

Originally Posted by thetruthisoutthere

I stand by previous comments that both Mantle/Martin autograph pieces are not authentic.

If both pieces were submitted to PSA today, I believe they would be rejected.

Is that based on who submitted them or on the autograph??????