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Good, but flawed research, Chad. I'm sure you meant Koufax's LAST 250 games. I stand by my conviction that Koufax was better...and I absolutely will not 'pay any attention to the man behind the curtain'. .
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Koufax's LAST 250 he was probably 250-0. Those are almost certainly his first 250.
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mmm yea reading is hard, and certainly you would want koufax's LAST 250 starts to compare to anybody's. koufax had to retire after his age 30-season. i'm willing to bet barring injury after kershaw's age 30 year i would take his 5-year stretch over any of sandy's.
of course legends are made in the postseasons, and koufax is so beloved because he brought home a couple championships. kershaw hasn't done it yet (though not entirely his fault), and i don't feel as constructed the dodgers will win big anytime soon during kershaw's prime years.
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You can only imagine how bad I would be at Twitter... .
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Kershaw is certainly on his way but still very early in his career for me, I still think Greg Madfux is the best pitcher I have ever seen. I was shocked this week on the ESPN rankings having Pedro in 1st by quire a bit. I was lucky enough Enough to see Pedro pitch 5 starts and 1 inning of relief on either the last or next to last of the season. He was 0-4 with 1 no decision. As great as he was I just saw him in person on the wrong nights?
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Based on the combination of greatness at his peak and longevity, I would take Clemens with Maddux a close second. Don't overlook the Big Unit either.
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But, NOT based on his integrity. .
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How can you look over a Big Unit? Do tell.
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By overstating the case for Pedro as the greatest ever.
Hall Of Fame StatisticsPlayer rank in (·) Black Ink Pitching - 58 (19), Average HOFer ≈ 40 Gray Ink Pitching - 215 (31), Average HOFer ≈ 185 Hall of Fame Monitor Pitching - 206 (21), Likely HOFer ≈ 100 Hall of Fame Standards Pitching - 60 (16), Average HOFer ≈ 50 JAWS Starting Pitcher (21st), 84.0 career WAR/58.2 7yr-peak WAR/71.1 JAWS COMPARED TO THE UNIT Hall Of Fame StatisticsPlayer rank in (·) Black Ink Pitching - 99 (6), Average HOFer ≈ 40 Gray Ink Pitching - 280 (14), Average HOFer ≈ 185 Hall of Fame Monitor Pitching - 331 (3), Likely HOFer ≈ 100 Hall of Fame Standards Pitching - 65 (12), Average HOFer ≈ 50 JAWS Starting Pitcher (9th), 102.1 career WAR/62.0 7yr-peak WAR/82.0 JAWS Average HOF P (out of 62) = 73.9 career WAR/50.3 7yr-peak WAR/62.1 JAWS COMPARED TO CLEMENS Hall Of Fame StatisticsPlayer rank in (·) Black Ink Pitching - 100 (5), Average HOFer ≈ 40 Gray Ink Pitching - 320 (7), Average HOFer ≈ 185 Hall of Fame Monitor Pitching - 332 (2), Likely HOFer ≈ 100 Hall of Fame Standards Pitching - 73 (5), Average HOFer ≈ 50 JAWS Starting Pitcher (3rd), 140.3 career WAR/66.3 7yr-peak WAR/103.3 JAWS Last edited by Peter_Spaeth; 05-15-2016 at 09:10 AM. |
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