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A mere 60K gain.
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I know longer buy they are this bad at detecting alterations.... Last edited by Johnny630; 10-12-2019 at 03:15 PM.
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What a disgrace. I'm not familiar with 1958 Topps Hockey cards, but I do know that many of the later '60's Topps Baseball cards had a dot matrix print pattern that would make it easy to detect recoloring under magnification. Putting $18,000 at risk to modify a card reveals a lot about PSA's gross lack of competence and the card doctor's brazen confidence (likely based on years of experience and lucrative returns on investment) to attempt to get a grade bump like this.
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Gross incompetence by PSA. A simple magnifying glass would reveal the very significant recoloring of that card. Within the thread on BO, they blew up that section, and it was beyond obvious that red ink was added to the jersey. Major tampering, and a true disgrace. Hope the buyer gets word of this.
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"So I think this whole trimming issue that we spent a lot of time talking about today is really something that we don't consider material to our business." Joseph J. Orlando https://finance.yahoo.com/news/edite...083408142.html
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Who knows? It may not matter to the buyer. Maybe the buyer is another card doctor hoping to alter it to a 9 or 10.
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I'm shocked collectors still think these trimmers were submitting altered cards to PSA without knowing the outcome. Please, our collecting community cannot be that dumb. 99% certainty these trimmers knew exactly the grade they were going to get, and PSA is knee deep in this crap.
If a trimmer is spending thousands of dollars to duplicate a factory cut to 1/64 of an inch, and years perfecting his skills, he's going to have an inside track to getting that bump. Until Joe Orlando is quoted under penalty of perjury during a deposition, I'll assume anything coming from his mouth is meant for the collectors club kool-aid drinkers. Last edited by Beastmode; 10-15-2019 at 05:51 PM.
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