SGC is cranking on recent subs....WOW!!!!!!!

[Jcosta19]

Doesn't SGC charge as soon as you make an invoice? Even before you mail the cards?

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[Oscar_Stanage]

Originally Posted by Jcosta19

Doesn't SGC charge as soon as you make an invoice? Even before you mail the cards?

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yes, that is my point

[Jcosta19]

Originally Posted by Wid_Conroy

yes, that is my point

Yeah you beat me to it

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[Jcosta19]

You weren't kidding.
My 7 card order shipped today. 7 business days at SGC.

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[Jcosta19]

Threw this modern card in with my prewar/vintage order that came back on Monday. I think it looks great in the SGC holder.

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[bks14sr]

My first SGC sub:




Planning on shipping out tomorrow morning. I’m also located in FL, so hoping that helps my timeline as well. Tempting to just make the drive to hand deliver my cards, as shipping always makes me cringe.

Looking forward to getting shareable updates of my experience.


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[conor912]

Originally Posted by bks14sr

My first SGC sub:




Planning on shipping out tomorrow morning. I’m also located in FL, so hoping that helps my timeline as well. Tempting to just make the drive to hand deliver my cards, as shipping always makes me cringe.

Looking forward to getting shareable updates of my experience.


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Killer group!

[Oscar_Stanage]

Received my submission... oh wait, not really- I will get them tomorrow.
These are scans downloaded from SGC, who now warehouses high resolution scans of every graded card.

[Pat R]

That's a nice Matty for a 2.

[Oscar_Stanage]

Originally Posted by Pat R

That's a nice Matty for a 2.

thanks, the colors are definitely bold, which is most important to me... but the corners are consistent with other 2s... grading is getting tougher overall.

[wazoo]

Originally Posted by Wid_Conroy

Received my submission... oh wait, not really- I will get them tomorrow.
These are scans downloaded from SGC, who now warehouses high resolution scans of every graded card.

Man do I need that Matty in a 2...

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by bks14sr

My first SGC sub:




Planning on shipping out tomorrow morning. I’m also located in FL, so hoping that helps my timeline as well. Tempting to just make the drive to hand deliver my cards, as shipping always makes me cringe.

Looking forward to getting shareable updates of my experience.


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Nice group...I feel like you are leaving a lot of money on the table by not submitting to PSA.

[puckpaul]

It seems like sometimes SGC is getting strong prices at auction similar to PSA, but more on the newer graded cards. Just anecdotal observation. Have to look more closely, would be nice to consider a second option for top prices.

[dio]

Originally Posted by puckpaul

It seems like sometimes SGC is getting strong prices at auction similar to PSA, but more on the newer graded cards. Just anecdotal observation. Have to look more closely, would be nice to consider a second option for top prices.

the gap is getting closer, on vintage too some of them are even higher, but it depends on the card

SGC 10 GM(not 10 pristine) 1986 topps tiffany barry bonds sold for 8300, psa around 9000, the pristine 10 will outsell psa 10 if there's any

SGC 1 1953 topps mantle a 1 for 2750 on 13th, this one outsell a lot of psa1

Not sure about modern, but i heard liquidity and price is not good. But things can change quickly once ppl recognizes and appreciate the grading of SGC more

[bks14sr]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

Nice group...I feel like you are leaving a lot of money on the table by not submitting to PSA.

I’m not planning on selling anytime soon. But if I did decide, I’m confident I’d get the same in either slab. I say that based off the cards I’ve been chasing, as SGC cards have done no favors on price when I go to purchase. But, I understand why you’d say that.

[kmac32]

Submission logged today at SGC so we will see what the turn around is.

[Oscar_Stanage]

Originally Posted by bks14sr

I’m not planning on selling anytime soon. But if I did decide, I’m confident I’d get the same in either slab. I say that based off the cards I’ve been chasing, as SGC cards have done no favors on price when I go to purchase. But, I understand why you’d say that.

the perceived discount comes from an unfair comparison:
1) old slab SGC is generally a grade lower, so buyers discount it.
2) significance of PWCC sales for PSA which are not reality.
3) not enough data points to accurately compare. PSA cards have way more volume.

if you comp pretty much any card pre-1990, and take in consideration these 3 points, you'll get essentially the same price.

[tjenkins]

Originally Posted by bks14sr

My first SGC sub:




Planning on shipping out tomorrow morning. I’m also located in FL, so hoping that helps my timeline as well. Tempting to just make the drive to hand deliver my cards, as shipping always makes me cringe.

Looking forward to getting shareable updates of my experience.


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Beautiful cards, especially that Aaron RC. I don't mean to horn in on this thread but, what is it going to cost you to get them graded?

I sent a 1971 Greatest Moments in of Killebrew and was very happy with SGC. I am thinking about sending these two in just to have them slabbed but I am concerned about cost. What do you think fees will be for these two. Is SGC tough on premium for higher end cards? Not concerned about high grades, just want them slabbed. I know a lot of people become concerned about leaving money on the table but these two cards have been and will always be PC cards. Any info from members would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!

[IMG]1933 Goudey Babe Ruth #144 (Raw) by Todd Jenkins, on Flickr[/IMG]

[IMG]1906 T206 Ty Cobb (Raw) by Todd Jenkins, on Flickr[/IMG]

[TobaccoKing4]

Originally Posted by tjenkins

Beautiful cards, especially that Aaron RC. I don't mean to horn in on this thread but, what is it going to cost you to get them graded?

I sent a 1971 Greatest Moments in of Killebrew and was very happy with SGC. I am thinking about sending these two in just to have them slabbed but I am concerned about cost. What do you think fees will be for these two. Is SGC tough on premium for higher end cards? Not concerned about high grades, just want them slabbed. I know a lot of people become concerned about leaving money on the table but these two cards have been and will always be PC cards. Any info from members would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!

[IMG]1933 Goudey Babe Ruth #144 (Raw) by Todd Jenkins, on Flickr[/IMG]

[IMG]1906 T206 Ty Cobb (Raw) by Todd Jenkins, on Flickr[/IMG]

I've always subbed based on expected value after being graded, but someone that I know that subs modern to them told me that their price structure is strictly based on how much you want to insure the card for while they have it. According to him he subbed two Mike Trout rookie cards at the $499 ($25 per card) and it was fine.

[vthobby]

Many 1st hand accounts of MY cards beiing up charged so.....if you send these in at $500 value, you will get up charged. Fact.

My "guess" and it could range is that you will get an email or phone call that the fee will be $250 or so per card, maybe more.

You will NOT get these slabbed at SGC if you put $499 on the value.

Cool cards and I feel if you have the money, they need to be slabbed. They would look really nice slabbed regardless of what TPG you use but with SGC youll have them back within a couple to few weeks as opposed to months with other TPGs.

Peace, Mike

[bobbyw8469]

The colors on the Goudey Ruth seem off. I hope for your sake the card is real.

[Santo10Fan]

20-25 business day estimate. Reholder received on March 12, shipped March 23 (8 business days).

[hcv123]

I sent in a sub on March 12th. Tracking shows delivered March 17th. SGC still not showing it as "received"?

[TobaccoKing4]

Originally Posted by hcv123

I sent in a sub on March 12th. Tracking shows delivered March 17th. SGC still not showing it as "received"?

I would reach out to their customer service if you never got an email from them that confirmed they received your order by now.

[Mutton Chop Yaz]

I submitted a batch including raw cards, crossovers, and a reholder that was received on March 15. It's in post-grading processing as of this morning.

[jchcollins]

My 2 card Mantle submission was turned around in 7 business days - arrived 3/12 and shipped back yesterday. I'd say that's more than reasonable for $75 all in including shipping. I should hopefully have them back in my hot little hands on Friday.

[hcv123]

Originally Posted by TobaccoKing4

I would reach out to their customer service if you never got an email from them that confirmed they received your order by now.

I did reach out to customer service by email 2 days ago(have not seen a response to that email yet).

This morning I received a "received" email for my submission - so they got it 3/17. Logged it received 3/25. Showing on their website as in "post grading processing". To be continued.....

[Mutton Chop Yaz]

I got clobbered on my PSA crossovers, for anyone wondering about comparative grading standards.

[hcv123]

Originally Posted by hcv123

I did reach out to customer service by email 2 days ago(have not seen a response to that email yet).

This morning I received a "received" email for my submission - so they got it 3/17. Logged it received 3/25. Showing on their website as in "post grading processing". To be continued.....

WOW!! As stated tracking shows my order received on the 17th. SGC logged it received March 25th - I am staring at my graded cards that I just received back!! The turnaround was INSANELY fast!!

Some thoughts:

1) As most of these cards are to sell, here is the way I see it - I would have to get $75 more per card just to cover the difference in grading fees if I went with PSA AND that doesn't account for the time value factor which is HUGE with PSA now - I have Thousdands of dollars in cards sitting at PSA in 5 separate orders, the oldest of which they received in July 2020 and HAVE NO IDEA WHEN I'LL SEE THEM AGAIN. Tying up inventory indefinitely/ for that length of time has a huge cost!! I think this is a real potential opportunity for SGC.

2) In terms of grades (and my opinion): 18 came back graded "right". 1 came back overgraded. 6 came back undergraded (3 of them GROSSLY undergraded).

3) SGC will be seeing more of my business!

[bks14sr]

Overall, happy with my results. Guess I’m in the market again for a 250 Williams, buying graded next go. Here are the scans:








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[Kzoo]

Beautiful cards. Does that Aaron have a small crease somewhere? Looks better than VG-EX and more like EX-MT+. I have a few on the way back too, with a 55 Bowman Mantle that got an 'A' for 'evidence of trim' that I wasn't expecting.

[bks14sr]

Originally Posted by Kzoo

Beautiful cards. Does that Aaron have a small crease somewhere? Looks better than VG-EX and more like EX-MT+. I have a few on the way back too, with a 55 Bowman Mantle that got an 'A' for 'evidence of trim' that I wasn't expecting.

There is a small corner wrinkle on the back of the Aaron, very faint and only about 1/8”. I’m usually into crease/wrinkle free cards, but I didn’t mind this one. Couldn’t see it unless I angled the card in light to find it, so I’m more than content. Seeing that “A” in results stings doesn’t it? I wish a simple line or two with justification for grade accompanied Authentic grades.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Any chance the Williams had been in a screw down? Looks like corners might be compressed.

[Mutton Chop Yaz]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

Any chance the Williams had been in a screw down? Looks like corners might be compressed.

This is interesting. My Exhibits Paige came back A, and I couldn't figure out why. It has some issues, but I thought it would get a numeric grade. It came to me in a screwdown holder. Perhaps that was it.

I guess I'm not able to recognize compressed corners, because they don't stand out to me on that Williams, and I thought the corners on my Paige looked normal but worn. Any thoughts?

[bks14sr]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

Any chance the Williams had been in a screw down? Looks like corners might be compressed.

It was in a Cardsaver when I received it, but possibly in a screw down at some point. It didn’t appear to have compression on corners/borders when I looked it over at time of purchase. Matched up in size to my others, and I found nothing obvious. I reached out to SGC asking for notes, but I was told the grader provided nothing for detail.

Trying to make up my mind on what I want to do with the card at this point. Keep it/buy a numerical graded copy to go with it, crack and resub to PSA eventually, or sell it. Leaning towards keeping it as is and buying an already graded EX.

[steve B]

Originally Posted by bks14sr

There is a small corner wrinkle on the back of the Aaron, very faint and only about 1/8”. I’m usually into crease/wrinkle free cards, but I didn’t mind this one. Couldn’t see it unless I angled the card in light to find it, so I’m more than content. Seeing that “A” in results stings doesn’t it? I wish a simple line or two with justification for grade accompanied Authentic grades.

I'm not sure what they do now, but if you selected the option to not slab as "A" you got an explanation ticket back with the card.

[bks14sr]

Originally Posted by steve B

I'm not sure what they do now, but if you selected the option to not slab as "A" you got an explanation ticket back with the card.

I was not aware of that, thank you.

[Jcosta19]

Will give credit where it is due. They are still more than meeting deadlines and great customer service.

I just had a 2 card turnaround in 13 days (plus shipping time).

The best part of the sub was that I had made it on May 28th for $25 per card but not completed and paid yet as I was waiting until my typical mailing day.

When I go to pay and complete on April 1st the order was now $150 for a reholder and a raw grade.

I emailed customer service and asked if they would honor the original price since the submission date was May 28th and they responded the same day honoring the previous price of $25 per card and also replied immediately to a couple follow up emails.

Great customer service experience that I wanted to share.

Ju$tin C0$ta

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[TobaccoKing4]

Quick question - if you submit a card to SGC for reholdering will they regrade it, or does it keep the same grade as long as you send them an untampered with holder?

[Jcosta19]

Originally Posted by TobaccoKing4

Quick question - if you submit a card to SGC for reholdering will they regrade it, or does it keep the same grade as long as you send them an untampered with holder?

Keeps the grade if you reholder. Mine was a 55 Bowman Mantle I picked up on BST in an old case with some scratches on it. Since I was already sending another card it was well worth the $25 (wouldn't do it for $75).

If you want them to regrade you send for review, no reholder.

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[hockeyhockey]

Originally Posted by Jcosta19

Keeps the grade if you reholder. Mine was a 55 Bowman Mantle I picked up on BST in an old case with some scratches on it. Since I was already sending another card it was well worth the $25 (wouldn't do it for $75).

If you want them to regrade you send for review, no reholder.

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i had a 1980 rickey rookie in an old SGC holder. sent it to them just before all these price increases, cost $10. blind squirrel finds a nut every so often

[JayZim13]

I just went on their website. There is no submission for cards less then $75.
How are you getting less expensive cards graded?

[Republicaninmass]

I will update. Right now they are refusing to grade any as gray backs.

"
The submission is enroute to you. When you receive it can you send me an image of the Frank House card and I'll see if it's a "yellow tiger" card? My verification team makes the decision on what the label should look say. They let me know that we don't indicate gray back on the label."



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[Republicaninmass]

12 gray backs. All mislabeled

1 yellow tiger house mislabeled


All were described appropriately via SGCs drop down menu

Graded fast...but no excuse

People really graded VG commons at $25 a card?

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[Snowman]

Originally Posted by Republicaninmass

12 gray backs. All mislabeled

1 yellow tiger house mislabeled


All were described appropriately via SGCs drop down menu

Graded fast...but no excuse

People really graded VG commons at $25 a card?
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Do you have some examples of these backs next to the typical red backs and black backs that you can post? Same card side-by-side, one gray, one not?

Last time I had an issue with a couple of SGC graded cards, I reached out to customer service and they were on it right away. I literally received a phone call that evening from an executive and the following morning I had a FedEx overnight label in my inbox. I shipped the cards out from CA to FL that day, and literally had them back in hand with new holders 42 hours later. Granted, they were high-ish end cards, but the customer service I received was outstanding. Hopefully yours will be as well.

[Oscar_Stanage]

has anyone had a recent SGC submission?
what is their current timing from receipt of cards to the grading stage?

[Mark17]

Originally Posted by Wid_Conroy

has anyone had a recent SGC submission?
what is their current timing from receipt of cards to the grading stage?

I sent in a small 9 card standard submission that was received on 9/21. It remains in "Received" status.

[Oscar_Stanage]

Originally Posted by Mark17

I sent in a small 9 card standard submission that was received on 9/21. It remains in "Received" status.

interesting... they were turning around in 10-14 days for a while. I doubt there are more submissions coming in now .... did they fire employees?

[hockeyhockey]

Originally Posted by Wid_Conroy

has anyone had a recent SGC submission?
what is their current timing from receipt of cards to the grading stage?

i sent in 2 orders over the past few weeks. they are saying 45-50 business days now - not sure if that's accurate. my oldest one was received on sept 20, still in "received" mode.

[buymycards]

Originally Posted by Republicaninmass

12 gray backs. All mislabeled

1 yellow tiger house mislabeled


All were described appropriately via SGCs drop down menu

Graded fast...but no excuse

People really graded VG commons at $25 a card?

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The gray backs in lower condition easily sell for $500, and probably much more, compared to maybe $20 for the regular backs.