SGC is cranking on recent subs....WOW!!!!!!!

[Jcosta19]

Originally Posted by TobaccoKing4

Quick question - if you submit a card to SGC for reholdering will they regrade it, or does it keep the same grade as long as you send them an untampered with holder?

Keeps the grade if you reholder. Mine was a 55 Bowman Mantle I picked up on BST in an old case with some scratches on it. Since I was already sending another card it was well worth the $25 (wouldn't do it for $75).

If you want them to regrade you send for review, no reholder.

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[hockeyhockey]

Originally Posted by Jcosta19

Keeps the grade if you reholder. Mine was a 55 Bowman Mantle I picked up on BST in an old case with some scratches on it. Since I was already sending another card it was well worth the $25 (wouldn't do it for $75).

If you want them to regrade you send for review, no reholder.

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i had a 1980 rickey rookie in an old SGC holder. sent it to them just before all these price increases, cost $10. blind squirrel finds a nut every so often

[JayZim13]

I just went on their website. There is no submission for cards less then $75.
How are you getting less expensive cards graded?

[Jcosta19]

Originally Posted by JayZim13

I just went on their website. There is no submission for cards less then $75.

How are you getting less expensive cards graded?

Cant right now unfortunately.

April 1st they raised minimum submission to $75 after PSA shutdown their intake of most submission levels, which caused SGC to get overwhelmed with 5x the submissions per day than normal.

Supposedly they will drop prices at some point, likely when PSA is caught up and start taking submissions again.

Its a mess right now.

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[prestigecollectibles]

I'm done with SGC. I sent them four Japanese cards to be graded that were already in their database and I had previously graded as well with no issues. They just called trying to extort an upcharge for "research". They did this to a friend of mine as well. This is incredible considering I was the one they used to contact about identifying Japanese cards. I told them to send the cards back and I will never use them again.

[Yoda]

That's obscene. They seem to forget that that customers have long memories and actions like these will hurt their base, loyal or not. Yet again money rules the hobby. I have been considering trying one of the new grading cos. but haven't yet pulled the trigger. Maybe this attitude by SGC will spur me to action. 'Research' my ass.

[toledo_mudhen]

Originally Posted by prestigecollectibles

I'm done with SGC. I sent them four Japanese cards to be graded that were already in their database and I had previously graded as well with no issues. They just called trying to extort an upcharge for "research". They did this to a friend of mine as well. This is incredible considering I was the one they used to contact about identifying Japanese cards. I told them to send the cards back and I will never use them again.

So instead of $75 per card they wanted to up to $100 each?

Did they have any response to "send them back and I'll never use again"?

PSA/SGC seem to be completely out of their minds at this point - I'm done with both of them also. At some point they are gonna wish that they would have treated their "longtime" base much better. Unbelievable!

CSG is still currently at $15 per card (economy - 75 days) and $8 (Bulk 50 card min - 80 days)

[prestigecollectibles]

SGC refunded my $300 in fees and they are sending them back. I wasted $30 in shipping even though I live 30 minutes from them and could easily drop off and pick up which they stopped allowing that last year.

PSA actually has a consultant for Japanese cards and they never upcharge for doing research.

I sent some UD Tiger Woods golf cards to CSG and were told after they returned them to me that they were a bit oversized and they are waiting for slightly larger holders. I've read the same thing happened to other people as well.

Originally Posted by toledo_mudhen

So instead of $75 per card they wanted to up to $100 each?

Did they have any response to "send them back and I'll never use again"?

PSA/SGC seem to be completely out of their minds at this point - I'm done with both of them also. At some point they are gonna wish that they would have treated their "longtime" base much better. Unbelievable!

CSG is still currently at $15 per card (economy - 75 days) and $8 (Bulk 50 card min - 80 days)

[kmac32]

Originally Posted by toledo_mudhen

So instead of $75 per card they wanted to up to $100 each?

Did they have any response to "send them back and I'll never use again"?

PSA/SGC seem to be completely out of their minds at this point - I'm done with both of them also. At some point they are gonna wish that they would have treated their "longtime" base much better. Unbelievable!

CSG is still currently at $15 per card (economy - 75 days) and $8 (Bulk 50 card min - 80 days)

I had a similar issue with them earlier. They tried to upcharge me with Silks. I had sent S74 silks in before and it was like any other card I had sent in. Had 5 I sent in on next submission and they wanted $20 additional for each card. Had them sent them back as I was not willing to pay $20 for Mylar. Was also annoying as it took 4 1/2 month to get cards back. Did try them again after the backlog was resolved and had better luck. Then the raised price to $75 so I am out unless something really good comes along that I want slabbed.

[steve B]

Pretty easy to clear the list and "crank" on subs when you do no work...

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Send away with a bogus upcharge
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and so on.

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by prestigecollectibles

I'm done with SGC. I sent them four Japanese cards to be graded that were already in their database and I had previously graded as well with no issues. They just called trying to extort an upcharge for "research". They did this to a friend of mine as well. This is incredible considering I was the one they used to contact about identifying Japanese cards. I told them to send the cards back and I will never use them again.

Good decision.

[HexsHeroes]

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Submitted 3/30 @ $25 old price.
SGC posted as received 4/06.
Graded/slabbed.
Return shipped 4/16.
Delivered to me on 4/22.

Interestingly, even though I paid for and shipped my submission on 3/30, the invoice returned with my slabbed card notes rate charged as $90 ($75 rate + $15 shipping) but amount paid = $40 ($25 + $15). Thinking I better check my recent credit card transactions to make sure SGC did not collect on difference based on new pricing.

[Frankish]

Originally Posted by prestigecollectibles

I'm done with SGC. I sent them four Japanese cards to be graded that were already in their database and I had previously graded as well with no issues. They just called trying to extort an upcharge for "research". They did this to a friend of mine as well. This is incredible considering I was the one they used to contact about identifying Japanese cards. I told them to send the cards back and I will never use them again.

It's still happening, and it seems clear to me that it's a scam at this point. If they have a new policy, not only should it be explicitly stated at submission (not the vague language they have now) but it should register automatically at the time of submission.

For instance, if you try to submit a 1959 Topps baseball card to PSA under a quarterly special for 1960s cards, you are informed that it doesn't qualify when you try to add it to your order. If SGC doesn't grade certain cards at their advertised fees for non-obvious reasons (such as them being oversized for that category), it should come up in the online submission form. This isn't rocket science. It might have been an execution challenge to small company in 1998, but now? High school kids could handle this.

It seems, rather, that SGC management has decided that it's preferable to have customers send in cards and then, when the customers are already pregnant with the costs of having shipped the cards to SGC and having to pay for return shipping, tell them they need to pay an extra $25/card (or whatever) to process the order.

All of this is, of course, setting aside the absurdity for charging "research fees" for cards they already have in their database. And it's particularly galling that they would charge you given that you helped them identify the cards in the first place.

For myself, at this point I guess I'll stick with the devil I know and just wait for PSA to open up other levels of submission. It's a shame. I thought SGC was smart with the general moves it has made to keep their turnaround times reasonable. And if that involved higher fees or limiting the kinds of cards it grades, that makes sense to me. But the hidden fees and/or uncharges are disappointing.

[Eric72]

Originally Posted by Frankish

It's still happening, and it seems clear to me that it's a scam at this point. If they have a new policy, not only should it be explicitly stated at submission (not the vague language they have now) but it should register automatically at the time of submission.

For instance, if you try to submit a 1959 Topps baseball card to PSA under a quarterly special for 1960s cards, you are informed that it doesn't qualify when you try to add it to your order. If SGC doesn't grade certain cards at their advertised fees for non-obvious reasons (such as them being oversized for that category), it should come up in the online submission form. This isn't rocket science. It might have been an execution challenge to small company in 1998, but now? High school kids could handle this.

It seems, rather, that SGC management has decided that it's preferable to have customers send in cards and then, when the customers are already pregnant with the costs of having shipped the cards to SGC and having to pay for return shipping, tell them they need to pay an extra $25/card (or whatever) to process the order.

All of this is, of course, setting aside the absurdity for charging "research fees" for cards they already have in their database. And it's particularly galling that they would charge you given that you helped them identify the cards in the first place.

For myself, at this point I guess I'll stick with the devil I know and just wait for PSA to open up other levels of submission. It's a shame. I thought SGC was smart with the general moves it has made to keep their turnaround times reasonable. And if that involved higher fees or limiting the kinds of cards it grades, that makes sense to me. But the hidden fees and/or uncharges are disappointing.

That's a pretty strong opinion of SGC as a company. Not saying I disagree with you; however, it would be unfair to post something like this without including your name.