N175 Goodwin and Company Gypsy Queen packs, cartons, cards etc....

[Leon]

I posted a new pick up of a Gypsy Queen carton and since there was a question (hey Joe G) I figure I will do a thread so as not to clutter the August Pickups thread too much. Here are the 2 cartons again. The one on the right is similar in design to the pack shown, which has 1888 printed on the inside (I believe). It has been my belief that the N175 cards came in the pack shown (which came in the box shown). As for dating them I will just put them both at circa 1887. Pack and card collecting is a lot of fun and the items are quite a bit scarcer, many times, than the cards they are associated with. The cards were made to be collected, not so much the packaging.

[Jay Wolt]

Wow! Fantastic pickup! Congrats!

[Matvoo]

Wow thats amazing

[Joe_G.]

I love these items Leon. The Gypsy Queen baseball card issues are so rare and a lot of mystery surrounds some of the items (California League GQs for example). I also enjoy collecting the packs the cards came in but not enough packs to go around. Beautiful packs and cartons.

[kamikidEFFL]

Simply amazing. If you don't mind me asking what do boxes usually run for. Incase I come across one sometime.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Joe_G.

I love these items Leon. The Gypsy Queen baseball card issues are so rare and a lot of mystery surrounds some of the items (California League GQs for example). I also enjoy collecting the packs the cards came in but not enough packs to go around. Beautiful packs and cartons.

Thanks Joe et al,
Yes, the tobacciana aspect of our cards is a lot of fun to collect and research. I know a lot of collectors enjoy it as much or more than I do (and I enjoy it a lot.) To be clear I already had the Carton and pack, of which I had 2 at one time, that are more white and just recently picked up the very colorful carton. Also, while I thought I had kept the other pack similar to this, without a stamp, I kept the one with a stamp as can be seen in this 400 dpi scan. It's sort of good news bad news; bad part is the printed inscription can't be read. The good part is the exact dating of the pack can be done as a stamp and overprint are present. I believe this says "1887".

and to answer the question on value, in a major auction each carton is around $800-$1200.....the pack would be 2x-3x that....in my biased opinion....

[Jacker_ Cracks]

Very nice Leon!

[Joe_G.]

Based on the packs I have studied, I believe your overprint reads as follows:

Manufr No. 40
Third District N.Y.
Nov I 1887

Although it almost looks like yours might say No 42 and your "I" should be a "1" after November. All other Goodwin & Co. packs I've studied list the month followed by a 1. I know baseball cards were distributed in packs at least into the month of October in 1888 (one of my packs has a baseball card notice stamped on the side) so this could have contained a card as well (late 1887 card).