N175 Goodwin and Company Gypsy Queen packs, cartons, cards etc....

[Joe_G.]

I love these items Leon. The Gypsy Queen baseball card issues are so rare and a lot of mystery surrounds some of the items (California League GQs for example). I also enjoy collecting the packs the cards came in but not enough packs to go around. Beautiful packs and cartons.

[kamikidEFFL]

Simply amazing. If you don't mind me asking what do boxes usually run for. Incase I come across one sometime.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Joe_G.

I love these items Leon. The Gypsy Queen baseball card issues are so rare and a lot of mystery surrounds some of the items (California League GQs for example). I also enjoy collecting the packs the cards came in but not enough packs to go around. Beautiful packs and cartons.

Thanks Joe et al,
Yes, the tobacciana aspect of our cards is a lot of fun to collect and research. I know a lot of collectors enjoy it as much or more than I do (and I enjoy it a lot.) To be clear I already had the Carton and pack, of which I had 2 at one time, that are more white and just recently picked up the very colorful carton. Also, while I thought I had kept the other pack similar to this, without a stamp, I kept the one with a stamp as can be seen in this 400 dpi scan. It's sort of good news bad news; bad part is the printed inscription can't be read. The good part is the exact dating of the pack can be done as a stamp and overprint are present. I believe this says "1887".

and to answer the question on value, in a major auction each carton is around $800-$1200.....the pack would be 2x-3x that....in my biased opinion....

[Jacker_ Cracks]

Very nice Leon!

[Joe_G.]

Based on the packs I have studied, I believe your overprint reads as follows:

Manufr No. 40
Third District N.Y.
Nov I 1887

Although it almost looks like yours might say No 42 and your "I" should be a "1" after November. All other Goodwin & Co. packs I've studied list the month followed by a 1. I know baseball cards were distributed in packs at least into the month of October in 1888 (one of my packs has a baseball card notice stamped on the side) so this could have contained a card as well (late 1887 card).

[steve B]

There's an online image modifier designed specifically for bringing up images of cancels. Retroreveal if I remember the name right. The demos I've seen are pretty impressive but I haven't tried it myself. It would probably do a good job on hard to read handstamps on cards too.

I read the cancel essentially the same way Joe does. The "I" should be a "1". Tax stamps were usually required to be cancelled with the date of use, but in practice were only done once a month (Or used the same cancel for the whole month )

Steve B

[jerrys]

My understanding is that the GQ cigarette packs that were contained in box on the left did not have insert cards. The GQ packs shown were held in the box on the right and carried N162 cards.

[canjond]

Here's my countertop display, which is similar to Leon's. I had a second (similar) carton at one time, too, but ended up selling it a while back.

[rjackson44]

Very pretty leon