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Whether they are re-holdered as an "A" or labeled as trimmed/doctored, whatever, I guarantee they will be back on the market in new holders or sold as raw over and over again if the TPG's happen to be smarter the second time around.
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That’s why a hole punch is a better solution than re-holdering these cards as “A”. It’s infinitely more difficult to restore and conceal a hole punch than it is to crack open a slab (which is exactly what would happen in “wave two”)
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At this point so many things are bad all the way around, all the outed altered cards, most of the sales since 2014 and up....I can’t explain them? which ones were fake? Which ones were real? All of this Market Manipulation Distorts what the real true value of the card is in said grade whether that grade is real or a bad card. Maybe we will come back to reality pre 2014 prices on graded cards who knows I have no idea, people don’t seem to be stopping their buying habits but then again are these real sales or vaulted relisted cards idk ??
They can put holes in these altered cards or destroy them when the government is done with it’s evidence . Nothing matters anymore it’s all smoke and mirrors. |
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Since this thread involves PWCC --just thought I'd post --if you have poor condition butterfinger commons, please do NOT sell through PWCC! There is a lot of 12 right now I'm not bidding on. I bought the only two poor condition lots on ebay in the last couple months (based on searching for recent sales a few weeks ago), so I've gotta be one of the biggest buyers of really crappy butterfinger commons! Only saw this PWCC lot cause I often search ebay for Butterfinger lots. I am never bidding on anything on PWCC site ever again so I can't bid on this lot darn it.
Unfortunately, PWCC losing my business will have zero effect on their bottom line as I am not even a small fish, not even a minnow . . .I have bid on quite a few ungraded vintage lots the last couple years, but I only ever won one or two small lots.
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In another thread there is a post about the over/under on PSA lasting 8 years.
Now that more people know about PWCC how about the over/under on PWCC lasting 2 years? Personally with their lawyer who IMHO goated them into hiring him I will take the over. We could all do a group submission of our higher end cards to PSA and then consign them to PWCC, a win win for everyone. |
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mmmm I don't see that happening as then PWCC is open to all sorts of extra scrutiny. Claiming damages against a company you set out to deceive is not a winning proposition in my book. If anything the lawsuit would make more sense the other way around, but again PSA would never do that due to the level of scrutiny it would open them up to.
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No, Brent's playing defense. If he survives without doing time and with his company intact -- and I do think that is likely to be honest -- he's going home, he's not going on offense.
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Well one good thing would come of it, it would stop Jake from posting about no lawsuits.
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Yes sir ! There is a plus to my wild thinking !!
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thats true.....but it will also stop everyone from saying there will be all these lawsuits and all these theories about all the things that are going to happen......cause right now its zero
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Perhaps you should contact Brian and tell him his investigation is a "zero."
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Nothing against Jake but that comment doesn't even rise to Stupid. It is at the Ignorance level. I can absolutely promise things are being done. I have no firsthand knowledge since the National but there will be consequences for quite a few people. And I think restitution is a big thing as well as some other form of punishment to dissuade the criminals in the future. I would never bet against the FBI. They rock. It won't be fast but it will be thorough.
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That is a fact and I would way rather listen to Jake than many of the others.
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Has it broken the record for broken records though?
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I am glad I have maybe bought one or two cards from PWCC several years ago and own less than five low value PSA slabs. I am sensitive and delicate in real life and don't know any sketchy people.
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I was going to say something but nevermind.
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