PSA/BGS/PWCC dispute or refund thread

[999Tony]

Since this thread involves PWCC --just thought I'd post --if you have poor condition butterfinger commons, please do NOT sell through PWCC! There is a lot of 12 right now I'm not bidding on. I bought the only two poor condition lots on ebay in the last couple months (based on searching for recent sales a few weeks ago), so I've gotta be one of the biggest buyers of really crappy butterfinger commons! Only saw this PWCC lot cause I often search ebay for Butterfinger lots. I am never bidding on anything on PWCC site ever again so I can't bid on this lot darn it.

Unfortunately, PWCC losing my business will have zero effect on their bottom line as I am not even a small fish, not even a minnow . . .I have bid on quite a few ungraded vintage lots the last couple years, but I only ever won one or two small lots.

[bnorth]

In another thread there is a post about the over/under on PSA lasting 8 years.

Now that more people know about PWCC how about the over/under on PWCC lasting 2 years?

Personally with their lawyer who IMHO goated them into hiring him I will take the over.

We could all do a group submission of our higher end cards to PSA and then consign them to PWCC, a win win for everyone.

[Johnny630]

Originally Posted by bnorth

In another thread there is a post about the over/under on PSA lasting 8 years.

Now that more people know about PWCC how about the over/under on PWCC lasting 2 years?

Personally with their lawyer who IMHO goated them into hiring him I will take the over.

We could all do a group submission of our higher end cards to PSA and then consign them to PWCC, a win win for everyone.

Over I’m thinking we see them, PWCC, going civilly to Court Against PSA for millions in damages.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

mmmm I don't see that happening as then PWCC is open to all sorts of extra scrutiny. Claiming damages against a company you set out to deceive is not a winning proposition in my book. If anything the lawsuit would make more sense the other way around, but again PSA would never do that due to the level of scrutiny it would open them up to.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Johnny630

Over I’m thinking we see them, PWCC, going civilly to Court Against PSA for millions in damages.

You jest my friend. PWCC as the damaged party? LOLOLOL. Oh that's rich, the man who knowingly did years and tons of business with Gary and Lord knows how many superstar card doctors, as plaintiff? Not to mention all the cards he appears to have uh um conserved himself.

No, Brent's playing defense. If he survives without doing time and with his company intact -- and I do think that is likely to be honest -- he's going home, he's not going on offense.

[Johnny630]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

You jest my friend. PWCC as the damaged party? LOLOLOL. Oh that's rich, the man who knowingly did years and tons of business with Gary and Lord knows how many superstar card doctors, as plaintiff? Not to mention all the cards he appears to have uh um conserved himself.

No, Brent's playing defense. If he survives without doing time and with his company intact -- and I do think that is likely to be honest -- he's going home, he's not going on offense.

I know it sounds bizarre. When you say you have seen it all you haven’t seen it all. I wouldn’t doubt it one bit.
Who is paying for all the bought back cards by his company ? I don’t see him just eating that bill.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Johnny630

I know it sounds bizarre. When you say you have seen it all you haven’t seen it all. I wouldn’t doubt it one bit.
Who is paying for all the bought back cards by his company ? I don’t see him just eating that bill.

Well one good thing would come of it, it would stop Jake from posting about no lawsuits.

[Johnny630]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Well one good thing would come of it, it would stop Jake from posting about no lawsuits.

Yes sir ! There is a plus to my wild thinking !!

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Well one good thing would come of it, it would stop Jake from posting about no lawsuits.

thats true.....but it will also stop everyone from saying there will be all these lawsuits and all these theories about all the things that are going to happen......cause right now its zero

[Exhibitman]

Originally Posted by 999Tony

Since this thread involves PWCC --just thought I'd post --if you have poor condition butterfinger commons, please do NOT sell through PWCC! There is a lot of 12 right now I'm not bidding on. I bought the only two poor condition lots on ebay in the last couple months (based on searching for recent sales a few weeks ago), so I've gotta be one of the biggest buyers of really crappy butterfinger commons! Only saw this PWCC lot cause I often search ebay for Butterfinger lots. I am never bidding on anything on PWCC site ever again so I can't bid on this lot darn it.

Unfortunately, PWCC losing my business will have zero effect on their bottom line as I am not even a small fish, not even a minnow . . .I have bid on quite a few ungraded vintage lots the last couple years, but I only ever won one or two small lots.

You and I are plankton to PWCC