Opinions on PSA 9 Cobb

[Paul S]

Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe

better questions are....


if it's sold at Heritage how high will their in-house bids be on it, and when they win it when will they re-auction it at Heritage in 1 year? 2 years? 4 years?


if it's sold at Lelands what will the shipping charge be?


if it's sold at Hunts will they show a pix of the back?


if it's sold at Crazy Uncle will they still be in business when the auction ends and how many emails will it take by the winner to them to get it shipped?

Happy Holidays, Baby.

[cammb]

Originally Posted by insidethewrapper

How can a card come off the printing press, be cut, be put into a cigarette pack at the factory 110 years ago, it's then removed from the pack and touched etc. and look like that ? We all know it's impossible. Sad money is made and spent after altered cards like this.

It's been in a holder for the last 109 years.

[Luke]

Yikes that card

[iowadoc77]

Originally Posted by Luke

Yikes that card

Yes. But if you don’t know what you are looking for and you see that number...

[Fred]

Originally Posted by iowadoc77

Yes. But if you don’t know what you are looking for and you see that number...

What that statement says to me is that there are people that collect cards that have no clue what they're getting, yet they'll be willing to spend a ton of cash on it. I suppose someone that is willing to spend a ton of cash on stuff they really don't understand can still be considered a "hobbyist". Right?

What if it is somehow proven the card was trimmed? What's the price difference between a PSA9 Cobb and one that is in an AUTH holder? Oh yeah, PSA would pay the difference with their guarantee.... right.... They could just say, "hey, it's our opinion it is not altered" and that would be that... TPGs have it made... what will really be a shocker (not) is if in the future it is revealed/proven that major TPGs were in cahoots with sellers and AHs in an effort to drive up prices.

[iowadoc77]

Originally Posted by Fred

What that statement says to me is that there are people that collect cards that have no clue what they're getting, yet they'll be willing to spend a ton of cash on it. I suppose someone that is willing to spend a ton of cash on stuff they really don't understand can still be considered a "hobbyist". Right?

What if it is somehow proven the card was trimmed? What's the price difference between a PSA9 Cobb and one that is in an AUTH holder? Oh yeah, PSA would pay the difference with their guarantee.... right.... They could just say, "hey, it's our opinion it is not altered" and that would be that... TPGs have it made... what will really be a shocker (not) is if in the future it is revealed/proven that major TPGs were in cahoots with sellers and AHs in an effort to drive up prices.

Exactly right. Lots of people who have no idea about what they are buying and are paying loads of money for a number (an opinion). And the ONLY reason that card will sell for what it might is that number. Crazy.

[iowadoc77]

Looks like Heritage will be auctioning it off for those keeping track at home.

[hcv123]

Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe

better questions are....


if it's sold at Heritage how high will their in-house bids be on it, and when they win it when will they re-auction it at Heritage in 1 year? 2 years? 4 years?


if it's sold at Lelands what will the shipping charge be?


if it's sold at Hunts will they show a pix of the back?


if it's sold at Crazy Uncle will they still be in business when the auction ends and how many emails will it take by the winner to them to get it shipped?

That's awesome!! Don't forget:

If it's sold at REA will all the people who criticized the card rescind their opinion and have confidence it's legit?

anyone else.....?

[hcv123]

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[111gecko]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

floats in the holder on sides. Not conclusive but I wonder about top to bottom especially.

It's a "slim fit" Cobb..

[Rhotchkiss]

I once purchased (and owned) the card pictured below. Once in hand, I became concerned it was “short.” I tried to cross it over to SGC, and I requested a minimum grade of 6, because I preferred the card stay in a BVG 7.5 flip to an SGC A flip. SGC did not cross it, claiming it did not achieve minimum grade. My skepticism increased (this is a good looking card).

I then took it to the philly show and showed it to several experts-friends and auction houses. The unanimous consensus was that the card “had to remain in the BVG flip”. Three strikes confirmed: the card was short (and likely so from trimming). I ended up strongly requesting that the asshole who sold me the card (I am convinced he knew it was short) buy it back from me for $1000 less than I paid (yes, I lost a grand), and he did. Good riddance.

This PSA 9 Cobb reminds me of my old, short BVG Cobb (mine was short on bottom; the PSA 9 looks short on top and maybe a bit on bottom). The main difference is that mine resided, and had to remain, in a BVG flip, a less desirable flip, and the current Cobb 9 was lucky enough to get into a PSA flip; (for some reason) the most desirable flip. If this PSA 9 Cobb sat in a BVG 9 flip, it would sell for substantially less and it would need to remain in the BVG flip if it wanted a number grade.

Few takeaways, and one thought: first, I have never bought another card from that dealer and never will. Second, I have since never purchased another card in a BVG flip that is older than 2000, and the ones newer than 2000 I have bought are cards my kids wanted. Third, I am very sensitive to cards that are short, and this PSA 9 looks short (I doubt BVG would cross it ).

Finally, ethically, I think Heritage is perfectly fine to auction the card and to tout it as a PSA 9- indeed, that’s exactly what it is. Unless Heritage has proof that it is short/altered, I believe they are ethically ok to auction what is consigned to them, and to describe it as what it is - a PSA 9 Cobb. That said, I would take care in the description bc they should not make reps or opinions (like PWCC) beyond what PSA has determined. I think it’s best if they simply stated something like “PSA 9 Cobb bat off. Enough said”

[LincolnVT]

I would argue that SGC is the most desirable holder...especially in light of all of the controversy. Plus, I love the look of most all cards with the black background. No opinion on the Cobb other than I think it will likely bring a pile.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by LincolnVT

I would argue that SGC is the most desirable holder...especially in light of all of the controversy. Plus, I love the look of most all cards with the black background. No opinion on the Cobb other than I think it will likely bring a pile.

Agree at this time. .