Opinions on PSA 9 Cobb

[ullmandds]

I dont like the lower rt corner...but who am I?

[Jobu]

Pete Ullman???

😁

Originally Posted by ullmandds

I dont like the lower rt corner...but who am I?

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by Jobu

Pete Ullman???

😁

shhhhhhhhhh!

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

floats in the holder on sides. Not conclusive but I wonder about top to bottom especially.

[ullmandds]

At this point in time...any 100 year old card in an 8,9 or 10 holder is guilty until proven innocent...imo.

[iowadoc77]

The print mark first caught my eye but also how? Just how in the heck did that card survive and look like that still today?
Conservation maybe? Just a thought.

[bigfish]

Horrifying top and bottom edge!

[MVSNYC]

I always look at two things first with high grade...

1. Does it strike me as “short” compared to other cards in the same set? YES.

2. Is the bottom edge parallel with the top edge? NO. Even in the case of diamond cuts, legit cards have parallel edges. Not the case here, unfortunately.

So, I’d personally avoid it.

[Fuddjcal]

Originally Posted by iowadoc77

The print mark first caught my eye but also how? Just how in the heck did that card survive and look like that still today?
Conservation maybe? Just a thought.

Gee do ya think? Knowing what we all know, there is ZERO chance that card has not been soaked in a chemical bath and then trimmed. Cards from that era simply never looked like that in my lifetime.

[benjulmag]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

At this point in time...any 100 year old card in an 8,9 or 10 holder is guilty until proven innocent...imo.

My choice for post of the year.

[BeanTown]

Originally Posted by benjulmag

My choice for post of the year.

Completely agree +1

I enjoy buying rare cards with very low pop as the condition does not matter as much. Plus postcards with the stamp on the back. Never got involved in the registry and never will.

[iwantitiwinit]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

At this point in time...any 100 year old card in an 8,9 or 10 holder is guilty until proven innocent...imo.

Agree, and I don't like that top border.

[aconte]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

At this point in time...any 100 year old card in an 8,9 or 10 holder is guilty until proven innocent...imo.

Another vote for post of the year!

[Rhotchkiss]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

floats in the holder on sides. Not conclusive but I wonder about top to bottom especially.

+1 card looks a little short to me, especially the top border; you see that OC top bottom in piedmont 150 but not so much in Sweet Caps. At best there is a slight diamond cut. Bottom line, whoever wins this at auction is buying the flip, not the card.

[111gecko]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

floats in the holder on sides. Not conclusive but I wonder about top to bottom especially.

It's a "slim fit" Cobb..

[Rhotchkiss]

I once purchased (and owned) the card pictured below. Once in hand, I became concerned it was “short.” I tried to cross it over to SGC, and I requested a minimum grade of 6, because I preferred the card stay in a BVG 7.5 flip to an SGC A flip. SGC did not cross it, claiming it did not achieve minimum grade. My skepticism increased (this is a good looking card).

I then took it to the philly show and showed it to several experts-friends and auction houses. The unanimous consensus was that the card “had to remain in the BVG flip”. Three strikes confirmed: the card was short (and likely so from trimming). I ended up strongly requesting that the asshole who sold me the card (I am convinced he knew it was short) buy it back from me for $1000 less than I paid (yes, I lost a grand), and he did. Good riddance.

This PSA 9 Cobb reminds me of my old, short BVG Cobb (mine was short on bottom; the PSA 9 looks short on top and maybe a bit on bottom). The main difference is that mine resided, and had to remain, in a BVG flip, a less desirable flip, and the current Cobb 9 was lucky enough to get into a PSA flip; (for some reason) the most desirable flip. If this PSA 9 Cobb sat in a BVG 9 flip, it would sell for substantially less and it would need to remain in the BVG flip if it wanted a number grade.

Few takeaways, and one thought: first, I have never bought another card from that dealer and never will. Second, I have since never purchased another card in a BVG flip that is older than 2000, and the ones newer than 2000 I have bought are cards my kids wanted. Third, I am very sensitive to cards that are short, and this PSA 9 looks short (I doubt BVG would cross it ).

Finally, ethically, I think Heritage is perfectly fine to auction the card and to tout it as a PSA 9- indeed, that’s exactly what it is. Unless Heritage has proof that it is short/altered, I believe they are ethically ok to auction what is consigned to them, and to describe it as what it is - a PSA 9 Cobb. That said, I would take care in the description bc they should not make reps or opinions (like PWCC) beyond what PSA has determined. I think it’s best if they simply stated something like “PSA 9 Cobb bat off. Enough said”

[LincolnVT]

I would argue that SGC is the most desirable holder...especially in light of all of the controversy. Plus, I love the look of most all cards with the black background. No opinion on the Cobb other than I think it will likely bring a pile.