Cardcollectorguru on our board....

[Leon]

So here we go again with this Jose guy, cardcollectorguru. Based on an email this morning, and his other issues, he is now banned. I don't see him being allowed to come back either. I just received another, additional PM, concerning him so want to address it publicly in a thread. If you are doing any deals with him I strongly recommend you get your end of the deal before paying..... Too many issues.....he's gone.

[jgmp123]

Looking like I may be out nearly $300 because of this guy...Please let me know if anyone has his email address or phone # (that isn't disconnected). You'd think a California police officer would have more integrity!

[thehoodedcoder]

If the guy is a california police officer, what would happen if you filed a police report against him in his jurisdiction? It would be very embarressing at the very least.

kevin

[7nohitter]

I was talking to him last month about buying a Bo Jackson card....It didn't dawn on me who he was, or his past issues, until I was ABOUT to write the check...fortunately it was a low cost item.

I email him telling him that I was concerned about sending him money. His reply simply stated: Do whatever you have to do"

I did not send the money and I never heard from him.

[Robextend]

I had problems with him as well, see this thread:

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=178809

Fortunately the deal eventually got done and the 1964 Topps Giants Ken Boyer auto passed 3rd party authentication (not to say that means it is 100% guaranteed authentic).

I feel bad for anyone that got screwed by this guy, but at least he won't be able to do it anymore thanks to Leon and some concerned board members.

[teetwoohsix]

Originally Posted by jgmp123

Looking like I may be out nearly $300 because of this guy...Please let me know if anyone has his email address or phone # (that isn't disconnected). You'd think a California police officer would have more integrity!

Just reading this and wanted to say I hope it works out and you get your money back. But the thing that struck me was that you noted he was a California police officer. It's hard for me to imagine a police officer would be engaged in ripping people off online. My point being, is maybe he is not really a police officer-and if he's not, impersonating a police officer may be a felony offense? Something to look into.

Sincerely, Clayton

[jgmp123]

Hey Clayton,

If you google him, you'll find that he is an officer and was at one point named "officer of the year" as ironic as that is...

[teetwoohsix]

Originally Posted by jgmp123

Hey Clayton,

If you google him, you'll find that he is an officer and was at one point named "officer of the year" as ironic as that is...

Wow. That's insane. Loss for words...

Sincerely, Clayton

[jp1216]

Got a card from him last month. Paid by check and had the card in hand about 2 weeks later. Nothing bad to report on my end.

[insccollectibles]

Originally Posted by jgmp123

Hey Clayton,

If you google him, you'll find that he is an officer and was at one point named "officer of the year" as ironic as that is...

Not ironic at all. With police officers pay being around $26,000-$30,000 gross a year to put their life on the line. I'm not condoning being corrupt but this could possibly contribute to it happening.

[Bpm0014]

There aren't any police officers that make $30,000. I live in Pittsburgh. After about a couple of years, almost all cops make $100,000.

[EvilKing00]

Originally Posted by jgmp123

Hey Clayton,

If you google him, you'll find that he is an officer and was at one point named "officer of the year" as ironic as that is...

I would deff report him to his own precinct

[HOFAUTOS]

Had a strange feeling about him when I PM'ed him to buy a few items. Glad I didn't follow through with the purchase.

[I Only Smoke 4 the Cards]

Originally Posted by EvilKing00

I would deff report him to his own precinct

That is great advice. Ask to talk to someone in internal affairs or professional review board.

[freakhappy]

If I ever sold bigger items or purchased bigger items, I would have to think about using FF or not. I can see where you are coming from, Jeff, but it's an option and they allow it to be used. My big issue with it is that the protection isn't there. But yeah, honor system...sounds good roll with what you believe in


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[HRBAKER]

It's amazing how many people are "Friends and Family" with folks they couldn't pick out of a crowd of one. That's the internet age for ya, really has made the world a smaller place.

[nolemmings]

Jeff, I hear ya and agree with you about the honor system, and while I will admit to having been "dishonorable" a few times, I generally add the paypal charges out my pocket when told I can pay by using "family & friends". I have never asked someone to pay me by "paypal gift" or its newer equivalent.

This construct that paypal differentiates true business transactions by the relationship of the participants is, um, artful. Truth is they are offering a service whereby expect a little % for such transactions, whereas if you are truly acting as a conduit for the transfer of funds--maybe even loans, there is no charge. Look at their fee explanation-- it tells you that buyers do not pay, sellers do, and transfers of money are usually without charge when made to friends and family. Note that it makes no friend/family distinction when discussing what happens when you are "selling something". You pay and you get the protection. I always thought that the intent and language was fairly straightforward, but I guess others have a different interpretation.

[HRBAKER]

Todd,

I agree. If a seller is selling something and I want it enough, I will pick up the fees if they ask for "FF/Gift." IMO, truth be told not only is the seller skirting the T&C but they are asking the buyer to as well. They want instant access to the funds from a confirmed source for free - sure beats waiting for a check, then waiting for it to clear, etc (that's the service part you are paying for). I think that if a seller doesn't want to pay the fees the right thing to do is to offer other payment methods.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by HRBAKER

Todd,

I agree. If a seller is selling something and I want it enough, I will pick up the fees if they ask for "FF/Gift." IMO, truth be told not only is the seller skirting the T&C but they are asking the buyer to as well. They want instant access to the funds from a confirmed source for free - sure beats waiting for a check, then waiting for it to clear, etc (that's the service part you are paying for). I think that if a seller doesn't want to pay the fees the right thing to do is to offer other payment methods.

I pay paypal quite a bit in fees. Sometimes I ask for FF, if it is a friend or family.....even if for a service or item. All things totaled I am sure ebay would rather me use their service. I requested almost $500 from someone this evening and will be eating the fees...and it's for a service with no protections needed. I could have just as easily asked for a check as I don't need the money now.
If I request a FF then I always give another option to the other party. Am I skirting their rules, probably. But do I feel I also pay them back, yes. Probably not perfect and in some members eyes unconscionable, but to me it's not that bad. They make a lot of profit off of me and I do it on purpose to help (me) justify the times I use FF......but again, to each their own.

[Eric72]

Originally Posted by HRBAKER

Todd,

I agree. If a seller is selling something and I want it enough, I will pick up the fees if they ask for "FF/Gift." IMO, truth be told not only is the seller skirting the T&C but they are asking the buyer to as well. They want instant access to the funds from a confirmed source for free - sure beats waiting for a check, then waiting for it to clear, etc (that's the service part you are paying for). I think that if a seller doesn't want to pay the fees the right thing to do is to offer other payment methods.

Jeff,

I agree with you 100%, and have offered to pick up the (roughly 3%) fees when there is no other payment option listed. I also agree that PayPal (yes, eBay) offers services rendered for fees paid service.

If sending payment through this service...if you get screwed...I ask this:

Did you really send the money to a "friend" or a member of your "family?"

Probably not.

[I Only Smoke 4 the Cards]

I had this same issue. I think the cards were delivered to the wrong house because someone put the package on my porch later that night.


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[7nohitter]

There have been several threads recently about the 'scan showing delivered' issue. If I recall correctly, part of the problem is that the delivery person is not supposed to scan the item until it is ACTUALLY delivered.

However, many delivery people are scanning the items when they start their route in the morning...the theory being that, "it WILL BE delivered..."

I should know better, and I apologize, but there is a member here who works for USPS and has been great about offering insight into this issue...

[rainier2004]

Originally Posted by 7nohitter

There have been several threads recently about the 'scan showing delivered' issue. If I recall correctly, part of the problem is that the delivery person is not supposed to scan the item until it is ACTUALLY delivered.

However, many delivery people are scanning the items when they start their route in the morning...the theory being that, "it WILL BE delivered..."

I should know better, and I apologize, but there is a member here who works for USPS and has been great about offering insight into this issue...

This is being discussed in 2 other threads and Andrew is right per our local n54 PO member. I don't think it shows where the package actually went as it was scanned inappropriately to beging with. What time was the package scanned at? How about the package you actually got? It show delivery at 130, but if its a different time you know they were scanned early...but I do think you are SOL unless someone brings you your package.

[jgmp123]

Originally Posted by rainier2004

This is being discussed in 2 other threads and Andrew is right per our local n54 PO member. I don't think it shows where the package actually went as it was scanned inappropriately to beging with. What time was the package scanned at? How about the package you actually got? It show delivery at 130, but if its a different time you know they were scanned early...but I do think you are SOL unless someone brings you your package.

Both packages were scanned in as received at 8:35am....The package missing was marked delivered at around 9:45am...the package that was delivered successfully was at 1:35pm

[rainier2004]

Originally Posted by jgmp123

Both packages were scanned in as received at 8:35am....The package missing was marked delivered at around 9:45am...the package that was delivered successfully was at 1:35pm

Maybe they have a record of where it was scanned at 9:45, that's a chunk of time in between the 2 deliveries at 1:35.