T206 green Cobb with CYCLE 350 back sells for 3K....some one was FAKED-OUT !

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by barrysloate

Interesting point Dan, because if I remember correctly the well known Just So Burkett was restored using a different card for its border, and it's also in an AUTHENTIC-ALTERED holder. But something is different with these two examples.

It's pretty clear what was done to the Burkett, and anyone owning it should know it's the product of two different cards. But in the case of the green Cobb/Cycle, wouldn't one assume that the card was issued with a Cycle back and then some alteration took place after the fact?

I believe with Burkett PSA made a conscious decision with its designation; in the case of the Cobb they made a bad mistake. My opinion is neither one should reside in a slab.

Barry Sloate said it best here back in Post #8......

" My opinion is neither one should reside in a slab. "


These re-fronted creations are no longer an original T206 (as printed 100+ years ago). Assigning them the status of "Altered" does not cut it (excuse the pun).
What do we have here, TPG people now trying to be "lawyers", so they can cover their a$$'s ?

Crack these phony cards out of their plastic and burn them. Better yet, save yourself the trouble of cracking them open.....just take an axe to the plastic and
shatter it into 100 fragments.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by tedzan

These re-fronted creations are no longer an original T206 (as printed 100+ years ago). Assigning them the status of "Altered" does not cut it (excuse the pun).

I agree. That goes beyond ALTERED. However, we learned from the PSA apologists in the "Moral of story..." thread, PSA's "opinion is clearly relevant" and everyones elses is irrelevant in identifying ALTERED cards.

Funny how that thread fell to the bottom of the page so quickly.

[Cardboard Junkie]

Aloha Leon.....may be biting the hand that feeds some but I would like to suggest a TPG Bash section so we all can show and tell the abominations that are the results of TPG ...and we don't have to worry about our posts getting burried on the bottom or next page. dave.

[barrysloate]

The problem with slabbing this card as AUTHENTIC is bidders may factor in a significant premium for the Cycle back, and it isn't warranted.

[john.clowes]

Wouldn't SGC label the card as 'skinned' or 'rebacked'? Seems like that would be a more accurate description.

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by barrysloate

The problem with slabbing this card as AUTHENTIC is bidders may factor in a significant premium for the Cycle back, and it isn't warranted.

So obviously true. How crazy that this card was labeled Authentic? Misleading. Disgraceful. If I bought this card, I'd sue PSA tomorrow.

[CW]

Originally Posted by barrysloate

The problem with slabbing this card as AUTHENTIC is bidders may factor in a significant premium for the Cycle back, and it isn't warranted.

I would agree. Even though the card looked really nice, in an authentic holder that card would likely sell for under $1K if it had a standard Sweet Cap or Piedmont back.