T206 green Cobb with CYCLE 350 back sells for 3K....some one was FAKED-OUT !

danmckee · #1 05-25-2012, 10:04 AM

Well stated Barry! I truly appreciate your input. A very interesting thought and I see your points. Dan.

barrysloate · #2 05-25-2012, 10:08 AM

Thanks Dan....no way that Cobb should be in a holder.

CW · #3 05-25-2012, 12:53 PM

It's interesting to note that the auction description does not mention the impossible f/b combo, but does mention an erased and re-drawn line on the front. Should the auction house be responsible (for lack of a better word) to know this fact and disclose it in the auction? Would such disclosure have an effect on ending price?

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Almost dead centered 1909-11 T206 Ty Cobb (Portrait-Green) has been slabbed AUTHENTIC - ALTERED by PSA. Stunning color with awesome image of Cobb. Corners present EX-MT to NM. Super clean both front and back. Centered close to 50/50 all the way around. The black border on the right side of the image has been erased then re-drawn. Tremendous eye appeal for this filler. Cycle 350 ad back.

rainier2004 · #4 05-25-2012, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by CW

It's interesting to note that the auction description does not mention the impossible f/b combo, but does mention an erased and re-drawn line on the front. Should the auction house be responsible (for lack of a better word) to know this fact and disclose it in the auction? Would such disclosure have an effect on ending price?

Id say yes and not sure as I dont collect t206's...but if I were spending 3k on a card I think Id look up possible front/back combos before doing so.

HRBAKER · #5 05-25-2012, 01:19 PM

To me there ought to be a certain line (not sure where it is as I don't do 206s) on level of back scarcity where it becomes incumbent upon a seller to at least ascertain whether it is possible. In this instance if the card was consigned, I'm not sure it occurred to check. The mention of the back does almost seem an afterthought at the very tail end of the description, not even in the title.

Abravefan11 · #6 05-25-2012, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by HRBAKER

In this instance if the card was consigned, I'm not sure it occurred to check.

Jeff an others - If this were a one time instance of a bad front/back combo in this companies auction I think most people would say shame on the consignor (or doctor) and the auction house just missed it.

But in their previous auction they sold another impossible front/back combo. A Christy Mathewson portrait with a Sovereign 460 back. SCP Listing

This impossible front/back combo was brought to the auction houses attention prior to the lot closing and the listing was neither pulled nor revised.

In their followup auction they listed and sold the impossible Cobb front/back combo with an almost identical write up describing the re-drawn black border.

Looking at the cert numbers the Mathewson and Cobb were submitted together. One would think the outing of the first card would have been a big red flag for the second. That this would have caused the auction house to look closely at the other cards in the submission or consignment. Either this didn't happen or the auction house is well aware and are happy with the way they listed and sold these cards.

atx840 · #7 05-25-2012, 05:24 PM

Here is another bad combo owned by a board member, its currently not graded.

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