Moral of story: don't sell an altered card. Sorry that I have to out a fellow member.

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by T's please

Why not show the PSA slip with the card or at a minimum state that it was submitted to PSA and they deemed it to be "ALTERED"? I'm not questioning your grading abilities, but it would be nice to state PSA's assessment.

That was the way it was first advertised on ebay, then by Brian on the BST.

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Frank

Um because that would impact potential profits?

[HercDriver]

I don't know Jmanos, but what if he's the world's greatest 1948 Leaf expert and his opinion is that it isn't altered? Why is some PSA dude presumed to be the expert over one of the board members?

I won a lot in REA a couple years ago that contained some T207s that the description said were trimmed. I sent them to SGC to round out a lot for one of their specials, just to get an "A" grade on them. They came back with some pretty nice grades, actually. So if I ever sell them, do I say they are SGC 50, but REA called them trimmed?

I guess my point is, somebody can think a card is trimmed and sell it to somebody who doesn't think it's trimmed...both guys thinking they got a good deal. It doesn't necessarily imply the 2nd guy is wrong in his assessment.

Just my two cents...

Take Care,
Geno

[vintagetoppsguy]

Agreed with Geno. Why does PSA have more merit than JMANOS?

After all, they're the same folks that graded this card a 10.



If that card doesn't tell you everything you need to know about PSA, then you're just drinking the Kool Aid!

[Tcards-Please]

Geno,

I wasn't questioning his personal opinion, but just saying that it would be nice to have full disclosure so that potential buyers have all the information and can make an informed decision.

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Frank

[doug.goodman]

Originally Posted by HercDriver

I guess my point is, somebody can think a card is trimmed and sell it to somebody who doesn't think it's trimmed...both guys thinking they got a good deal. It doesn't necessarily imply the 2nd guy is wrong in his assessment.

Or that the first guy is wrong...

[Tcards-Please]

So how many of you are going to go after that T206 Honus Wagner that is being talked about on another thread? It's a good deal right now as PSA could be wrong. How many of you would have asked the seller (if he didn't already disclose the fact that the authenticity was questionable by PSA), "if this doesn't grade a minimum of Authentic, can I return it?" That question gets asked ALOT. Suppose the flip had "AUTHENTIC/ALTERED" how many of you would now bid on that card? So for all the lip on TPG, most (not all) of you would take a leap of faith with their assessment as opposed to taking someones word especially when their feedback is 96.7%.

Again, I'm not saying one person's assessment is wrong and that TPG are the be all in making determinations on the characteristics of a card.

No witch hunt here, all I'm saying is why not disclose the information you have on hand so that potential buyers can make an informed decision?

And I'm sure Jim is a good guy.