Moral of story: don't sell an altered card. Sorry that I have to out a fellow member.

[Rob D.]

Any way this can be pinned on third-party grading?

[HRBAKER]

Originally Posted by Rob D.

Any way this can be pinned on third-party grading?

.........working on it!

[Brian Van Horn]

Great feedback also. What his name BTW. Since he is not being honest no point in giving slack.

[Tcards-Please]

Andrew,

It is post #2 on the BST link. So much for full disclosure on his part.

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Frank

[christopher.herman]

Leon,
Does this joker now get banned from the board? The evidence is pretty overwhelming.

Good work, Brian.

[Brian Van Horn]

Frank,

My apologies for my oversight.

[Rob D.]

Not sure what's more appalling: the (lack of) description or the $5.50 shipping.

[Matt]

Originally Posted by Rob D.

Not sure what's more appalling: the (lack of) description or the $5.50 shipping.

At least he didn't raise his BP.

[HasselhoffsCheeseburger]

Based on the feedback of the current ebay listing's seller .... I'm shocked -- SHOCKED -- to learn that there's gambling going on in this establishment.

[JMANOS]

Card measures fine it has a goofy cut, I dont think the card is altered at all. I have alot of 1948 Leaf that have the same issue. Sorry my opinion.

[Tcards-Please]

Why not show the PSA slip with the card or at a minimum state that it was submitted to PSA and they deemed it to be "ALTERED"? I'm not questioning your grading abilities, but it would be nice to state PSA's assessment.

That was the way it was first advertised on ebay, then by Brian on the BST.

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Frank

[christopher.herman]

Originally Posted by JMANOS

Card measures fine it has a goofy cut, I dont think the card is altered at all. I have alot of 1948 Leaf that have the same issue. Sorry my opinion.

Your "opinion" flies directly in the face of third party (albeit subjective in itself but well established/documented) evidence, constructive board etiquette and general ethics.

Your lack of insight into your clearly deceptive tactics makes you a liability on this board (and to the hobby at large) as well as to anyone with whom you may conduct transactions.

~Christopher

[Brian Van Horn]

Originally Posted by JMANOS

Card measures fine it has a goofy cut, I dont think the card is altered at all. I have alot of 1948 Leaf that have the same issue. Sorry my opinion.

Jim,

The card was submitted by a previous owner and was returned by PSA "Altered." This is not in the listing. When you purchased the card, I sent you the container with the card with the PSA Altered label.

[Brian Van Horn]

Please note the bidder's history:

url]http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBidderProfile&mode=1&item=120920062796&aid=t***o&eu=IH4Fi34W1yWswJ89IvUdKg8zeH4HIkKF&view=NONE&ssPageName=PageBidderProfileViewBids_None_ViewLink[/url]

If you can not view link, go to the original link and check the buyer's history:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI...S:1123#vi-desc

[JasonD08]

While I rarely post on here.....I do read article here almost everyday. While I see a little bit of frustration on the poster's part, I think there are bigger fishes to fry. I have had 2 significant dealings with Manos years in the past and I found he was fair and honest. I have no ties to Jim nor have I spoke with him in atleast 5 years, but my opinion is that you need to educate yourself on the product that you are buying and if y ou are not sure perhaps you need to not purchase or bid. I am completely 100% for truth and forth comings, but to rail a long time member on this is not right. I know what is like to get falsely accused....(not that is really matter in life on a baseball card message board), but the train can derail fast. If you dont like it, then dont buy it. I am sure most here have disagreed with PSA assessments in the past and most if not all have resubmitted in hopes of higher grades. I see nothing wrong with the item description as long as it was there in the beginning. I thin Wonka (John) hit it on the head.


Jason
(long long time pre-Elliott board member if that's a big deal)

[Tcards-Please]

Brian,

Appreciate you bringing this to light. This is probably the last thing you wanted to do, but even after giving him the opportunity to make it right, he still refused.

r/
Frank

[Jaybird]

not cool.