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Old 05-24-2012, 06:41 AM
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I just wrote to them too.
Ebay is now trying to do the right thing, in part due to pressure from the public.
We have to keep pressure on these guys too.
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Old 05-25-2012, 08:36 AM
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Once again for me the sickening thing is that they had a really nice looking auction without all of that crap. I love some of the art glass in their auction, but I will not support them in anyway, shape, or form.
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Once again for me the sickening thing is that they had a really nice looking auction without all of that crap. I love some of the art glass in their auction, but I will not support them in anyway, shape, or form.
I agree, that is why I gave them the benefit of the doubt. Tampa Auction Kings were a "new" auction house and their first two monthly auctions they offered these forgeries. When notified of this forgery issue, they responded that they would look into the matter. Yet they sold out anyway. The third month they have really steped up their game! Now we have a slabbed PSA "authentic" auto and a few others that may pass muster, mixed in with the plethora of our standard, run-of-the-mill, forgeries. Dick Butkis and Walter Payton are new ones for me.

The shame is that if they are so willing to ignore their ethical responsibility on these, where is their line? Do they even have a line they won't cross? "Might not be stolen" "Looks like 14K gold"? I will not participate again.

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This is the wrong hobby/business to ask for ethical responsibility.
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This is the wrong hobby/business to ask for ethical responsibility.
Sadly true. I am going to be joining my state auctioneers association this year and will become a mouthpiece for this cause at these functions. I hate to see auctioneers swimming in this filth and giving the rest of us the black eye.
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This is the wrong hobby/business to ask for ethical responsibility.
You know what, It seems as though that is the case. However, just last weekend I was at an auction that had a Mattingly / Mantle signed photo (the only one there). As I was showing my stepdaughter how to detect reprints / authenticity of several items, the auction owner apparently overheard our discussion about it being a copy of an actual piece. He took it to the auctioneer, who verified my statement. First he wrote on the back "Reprint". The auction owner asked if that was enough if someone were to frame it and try to pass it off as real. The auctioneer said no. The owner took the photo and ripped it up!. This was auction owned but I'd like to think they would be as critical of the Operation Bullpen junk.

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Congratulations Auction Kings of Tampa! You were able to realize about $775 in bids for 25 or so lots of FORGERIES. Well done! Considering that if they were real, and they were consigned in a reputable auction house the price would have been 10x plus....you did very well for yourselves. Hope you have trouble sleeping. But I doubt it.
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The "consignor" probably only had $50 invested.
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