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Old 05-22-2012, 03:32 AM
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Presuming he is the owner of the card, and picked it up from the Spring Memory Lane auction here just a few weeks ago: http://www.memorylaneinc.com/site/bi...emid=23644#pic

where he spent $3.5k... and with the card sitting at $316 for 2 days... I don't know about you, but I want as many bidders as possible. In fact, an SGC 60 Brunners Mathewson went for $45k just four years ago.

He could be legit, but his most recent feedback is for buying a few cheap autographed balls (multiples of Mariano Rivera), and some running shoes and accessories.

I don't think it was out of the ordinary for me to ask for a picture of the card next to a piece of paper with his eBay name. Extra hassle... sure, but worth getting another bidder? absolutely. Especially when his scans are identical to the Memory Lane and Huggins and Scott auctions.
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Old 05-22-2012, 09:59 AM
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Presuming he is the owner of the card, and picked it up from the Spring Memory Lane auction here just a few weeks ago: http://www.memorylaneinc.com/site/bi...emid=23644#pic

where he spent $3.5k... and with the card sitting at $316 for 2 days... I don't know about you, but I want as many bidders as possible. In fact, an SGC 60 Brunners Mathewson went for $45k just four years ago.

He could be legit, but his most recent feedback is for buying a few cheap autographed balls (multiples of Mariano Rivera), and some running shoes and accessories.

I don't think it was out of the ordinary for me to ask for a picture of the card next to a piece of paper with his eBay name. Extra hassle... sure, but worth getting another bidder? absolutely. Especially when his scans are identical to the Memory Lane and Huggins and Scott auctions.
Excellent points. Not only are the scans the same, but he also uses the same description.

I actually had a decent snipe set on this card, but will now be deleting it. Good luck to those bidding -- I'm out. Thanks for the thread.

And what exactly was the deal with the Matty that sold for $45K. I saw that when researching how much to bid on the eBay Mathewson. Wow!
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Old 05-22-2012, 10:31 AM
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Get a grip folks.

They're identical scans because the card hasn't changed in appearance since the auction. Do these cards change shape? Color?

Perhaps he wanted to save time by not having to scan the card when he can easily use the best scan already available.
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Old 05-22-2012, 10:53 AM
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Get a grip folks.

They're identical scans because the card hasn't changed in appearance since the auction. Do these cards change shape? Color?

Perhaps he wanted to save time by not having to scan the card when he can easily use the best scan already available.
Yes, but when there isn't a reverse scan he would be wise to put one out there, but he doesn't and doesn't provide one when asked for one. So it is beyond just using the exact scan, he doesn't provide any other scans that he doesn't have access to online.

For instance the Durocher only has a front scan online. That is the only scan that is used. Why not add a reverse scan of the card?
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Old 05-22-2012, 11:01 AM
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Get a grip folks.

They're identical scans because the card hasn't changed in appearance since the auction. Do these cards change shape? Color?

Perhaps he wanted to save time by not having to scan the card when he can easily use the best scan already available.
Sounds like you may have an invested interest I was for the seller till the evidence came out about the auction scans. To much of this happens in the hobby so when flags start flying its best to step away. We make mistakes sometimes(I do) but its hard to over look these facts
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Old 05-22-2012, 04:29 PM
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Get a grip folks.

They're identical scans because the card hasn't changed in appearance since the auction. Do these cards change shape? Color?

Perhaps he wanted to save time by not having to scan the card when he can easily use the best scan already available.
So you don't see any red flags? You wouldn't have any hesitation sending this seller $4K?

We've got:

1. private selling feedback

2. multiple cards for sale that were recently purchased at auction, all being sold right away, and all using the same scans as the online auctions. Not one card that wasn't recently auctioned off.

3. a horrible attitude and zero customer service. If you need to handle a return, how fun will it be to deal with this guy?

Granted, nobody is going to lose actual money paying by cc via paypal, but you are looking at a major headache and loss of time if you win this auction and it ends up being a scam.
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CW,

Exactly.

Manny doesn't see any red flags with a guy who just spent over $7,500 dollars last month in a couple of major auctions and who then THIS month lists those items on eBay at starting prices of less than 10% of what he originally paid.

On top of that, when asked questions about those items, the seller gives short, curt answers which don't really help the prospective buyer/s.

This is all illogical to me. It seems to me that if the guy overspent his budget or had some emergency come up that he needed to sell these cards quickly so as to get cash, he would be MORE than happy to answer questions about the items and help the prospective buyers out as much as he could.

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Get a grip folks.

They're identical scans because the card hasn't changed in appearance since the auction. Do these cards change shape? Color?

Perhaps he wanted to save time by not having to scan the card when he can easily use the best scan already available.
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I am told by a good hobby reference that the seller does definitely have some of the items listed. Don't know about all of them but definitely some of them. Still not very good customer service and I would hate to have any kind of dispute.
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Old 05-22-2012, 08:08 PM
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Leon,

Definitely intriguing to say the least. I guess that will put give some peace of mind to some.

I've dealt with some very abrasive and arrogant individuals, but I've never been told not to bid on something after a logical request.
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Put yourself in the seller's shoes for just a minute. If he does indeed own the card, isn't it kind of a slap in the face to ask for a picture of the card next to a piece of paper with his eBay name?

He was asked to PROVE he owned the card. It would be no different than a seller asking me to show him my bank statement to PROVE I have the means to pay for the card. It just doesn't set the tone for a good transaction.

I guess I just see it differently. I wonder what would happen if that same question were asked of PWCC (or one of the big time ebay sellers)? What would their response be?
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I just looked at the seller's items and noticed that he ended all of his auctions. Wonder why that was, I doubt it was because of his wonderful customer service

David, the big difference between the two, is PWCC has a huge following and has built a reputation based on their history and CUSTOMER SERVICE. People are reluctant to spend that kind of money if there is any doubt to the legitimacy of an auction. I'm sorry, but if I'm selling a high valued (for that matter any) item and I'm wanting to get the most for it, I'm not going to tell someone "no" and "do not bid". Just not good business practice and it appears to show since he removed the listing of all of his auctions. He can do as he wishes, but with responses like that, I'm sure it would turn some people off.

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