FS: Two signed 1920s Yankee baseballs SOLD!

[David Atkatz]

Originally Posted by thetruthisoutthere

Phil, in this instance, absolutely!!!!

He's talkin' about you, you moron!

[RichardSimon]

Fu--ing, moron, schmuck,,,David, do you kiss your kid(s) with that mouth ?
Name calling has been started here by Mr. David Atkatz.
Anyone surprised he is at that level?
Why would ebay have REMOVED the ball?
Another dud bought by Atkatz?
After ebay pulled the ball did David go to his guru, Jodi?
Don't know but would be interested in the answer.
He says he sold it, after ebay pulled it and uses PSA as his authority to sell it. Works for me .
Never worked for David before but what the heck. He has to pay for that new 1927 ball, which does seem to be good btw.
Night guys, fun as always David.

[David Atkatz]

Do you ever speak in anything but inuendo, Richard?
You don't have the balls--or the evidence--to come right out and accuse me of cheating anyone.
There are Net54 members who asked me about that ball, and I told every one of them that eBay removed it.
Put your money where your mealy-mouth is. Find someone I've cheated. Or attempted to cheat.
Til then, keep your fuc$ing mouth shut.

(Yeah. I started the name-calling. After you and your little lap-dog used your cowardly posts to imply I'm dishonest.)

You truly are an asshole.

(And if Leon wants to ban me for this, so be it.)

[David Atkatz]

I came on this forum to let all know that the centerpiece of my collection was a forgery. In doing so I all but guaranteed that the $16,000 hit would be taken by me. I made sure that anybody interested in a '27 Yankees ball would never be stuck with that one.

I think I've shown my honesty. I don't need shit from assholes like you and your little friend, Richard.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by David Atkatz

I came on this forum to let all know that the centerpiece of my collection was a forgery. In doing so I all but guaranteed that the $16,000 hit would be taken by me. I made sure that anybody interested in a '27 Yankees ball would never be stuck with that one.

I think I've shown my honesty. I don't need shit from assholes like you and your little friend, Richard.

I hope you guys quit the arguing and you need to be careful with the cursing on the board but I don't see anything to ban anyone for.

[Big Dave]

David,

I commend you, as did everyone else at the time, for exposing the 1927 ball in your collection as a forgery. Regardless of what one says, I seriously think very few people would have done what you did, and publicly out that ball, especially with the PSA/DNA certification. Most would have passed it on, regardless of what they may have stated on here publicly. I also think it is low to use your honesty in that matter, to attack you. Regardless of what others may state, this hobby of autograph collecting has become a dismal, unenjoyable, cesspool, of thieves, liars, politics, back stabbing, garbage. Even when someone does something right, a lot of people find something negative to say.

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by Big Dave

David,

I commend you, as did everyone else at the time, for exposing the 1927 ball in your collection as a forgery. Regardless of what one says, I seriously think very few people would have done what you did, and publicly out that ball, especially with the PSA/DNA certification. Most would have passed it on, regardless of what they may have stated on here publicly. I also think it is low to use your honesty in that matter, to attack you. Regardless of what others may state, this hobby of autograph collecting has become a dismal, unenjoyable, cesspool, of thieves, liars, politics, back stabbing, garbage. Even when someone does something right, a lot of people find something negative to say.

Dave, Mr. Atkatz knows the truth about that ball. Back in August 2011 I was suspicious of David's avatar (photo of the '27 ball). I then asked Mr. Atkatz if he wouldn't mind sending me photos of the ball, which he did.

The moment I received the photos I believed it was not authentic and that I had a feeling who did the signatures as I recognized the work.

It wasn't until we began being testy (during the Prisco incident) with each other that I was throwing Mr. Atkatz hints that his ball was no good. From what I recall, Mr. Atkatz went to a former authenticator and he confirmed to Mr. Atkatz that his "1927" ball was not authentic.

The fact is, it was me who first informed Mr. Atkatz about his '27 Yankees ball. This is not bragging, this is fact.

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by Big Dave

David,

I commend you, as did everyone else at the time, for exposing the 1927 ball in your collection as a forgery. Regardless of what one says, I seriously think very few people would have done what you did, and publicly out that ball, especially with the PSA/DNA certification. Most would have passed it on, regardless of what they may have stated on here publicly. I also think it is low to use your honesty in that matter, to attack you. Regardless of what others may state, this hobby of autograph collecting has become a dismal, unenjoyable, cesspool, of thieves, liars, politics, back stabbing, garbage. Even when someone does something right, a lot of people find something negative to say.

Dave-
Where did anyone say something negative about David exposing the 1927 ball?
I cannot find such a post but correct me if I am wrong.
The focus of this thread is that David says he sold a ball that ebay removed despite the ball having a COA from PSA.
Usually when that happens on ebay there is a serious reason. A very serious reason. PSA certs are almost never removed by ebay. Like I said a very serious reason.

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by Leon

I hope you guys quit the arguing and you need to be careful with the cursing on the board but I don't see anything to ban anyone for.

Leon - please bear in mind who is cursing and who has turned this conversation vulgar and who is trying to handle this like a normal disagreement. Who is making this personal and making disparaging remarks?

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by David Atkatz

Do you ever speak in anything but inuendo, Richard?
You don't have the balls--or the evidence--to come right out and accuse me of cheating anyone.
There are Net54 members who asked me about that ball, and I told every one of them that eBay removed it.
Put your money where your mealy-mouth is. Find someone I've cheated. Or attempted to cheat.
Til then, keep your fuc$ing mouth shut.

(Yeah. I started the name-calling. After you and your little lap-dog used your cowardly posts to imply I'm dishonest.)

You truly are an asshole.

(And if Leon wants to ban me for this, so be it.)

The question about the ball was asked on the board by Jon Canfield. You never answered on the board so we don't know of anyone who asked you about that ball privately. No balls to answer Jon Canfield on the board Mr Atkatz?? Wonder why? It is easy to say I did it in private. It is easy to say I never got a letter from Frank Prisco's attorney.
Prisco attorney letter redux= no balls.
We don't know if you told anyone about what actually happened to the ball.
"I did it in private" you say.
Just like you never got an attorney letter from Frank Prisco's attorney.
Typical David, why be surprised. Alleging facts that nobody can prove or disprove except David. And we are expected to believe him?
And how does anyone know what you did with the ball David?
What proof could I have that you sold or did not sell a ball that was removed by ebay.
Your word?
ebay removed the ball. Most people consider that a huge warning sign when it comes to autographs. But did you try to find out anything further about the ball. Did you try to get other opinions? You allegedly left it to the buyer who allegedly went back to PSA about a decade (?) old cert. What did he do, go to the PSA website and type in a cert number?
I have to laugh about David justifying, in part, a sale of a ball because it has a PSA cert. One of the leading attackers of PSA now using their name to defend himself. Hmmm,,, what do they call that ?? Hypocrisy?
Redux a whole lot of stuff.

[jgmp123]

Not gonna lie, this is better than prime time television....

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by jgmp123

Not gonna lie, this is better than prime time television....

We do try to enhance the Net54 experience for one and all .

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by David Atkatz

He's talkin' about you, you moron!

I am quite aware of that. That's why I wrote "Phil, in this instance, absolutely."