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Old 05-17-2012, 01:45 PM
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^^ After reading that, I should just leave the sheet rolled up and in a tube ^^
By the way, if this is how you are actually storing your sheet, I'd strongly advise another storage method. It needs to be stored flat, ideally between two sheets of acid-free buffered mat board, and kept in a dark, climate controlled place, ideally lying flat. Like under your bed for example.
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Old 05-17-2012, 02:06 PM
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I'm going to go at your question from a slightly different angle.

I am going to assume that the sheet(s) you want to display are going to give you more satisfaction from them being displayed, than from potential resale value in 50 years.

If my assumption is valid, than a google search for "poster display hangers" turns up lots of options.

http://www.allposterframes.com/all-p...me.asp?ID=5242

http://www.displays2go.com/Product.aspx?ID=13740

I wouldn't suggest using these for your 1952 Topps high number sheet, but your 1985 Topps sheets would look pretty cool.

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Old 05-17-2012, 03:28 PM
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When it comes to deciding how to preserve and display valued items, the word "assume" is most dangerous.

We cannot know the value of something in 50 years. Baseball cards being a famous example, as most were lost because people ASSUMED they were worthless. In the 1950s maybe they were, but in 30 years time, not so much.

Whether these cards are valuable or not, doesn't change that there is a right way and a wrong way to display them. Both will work, but one will shorten the lifespan of the item, and damage it beyond repair given enough time. The other will ensure there is something worth passing on.

It's pay now or pay later. Better to do it right the first time, rather than cut corners.
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Old 05-17-2012, 11:23 PM
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I respectfully disagree.

I do not care about the monetary value of any item in my collection now, and if I care in 50 years, well, "50 years from now me" will just have to put up with how "current me" displayed stuff.

As an example, my 1957 Topps baseball partial sheet is on the wall in my den, in a standard frame that I bought at a regular store. If it's losing value the longer it hangs on my wall, so be it. But it makes me smile every time I walk past it.

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Old 05-17-2012, 11:25 PM
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We cannot know the value of something in 50 years. Baseball cards being a famous example, as most were lost because people ASSUMED they were worthless. In the 1950s maybe they were, but in 30 years time, not so much.
If people had treated baseball cards as potential valuable objects back then, they wouldn't be nearly as valuable today, and my collection would be "worth" far less, and it would be far bigger.

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Old 05-18-2012, 07:50 AM
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I tend to agree with those who say "display it the way you like it"

I have an autographed picture of Muhammed Ali that was personalized to me. It go a bit wrinkled over the years but still looks great. I tried to frame it but the wrinkles really showed.

I took it to a professional framer and asked him to dry mount it for me. He reminded me that it would hurt the collectible value of it. Since I have no plans to ever sell it during my lifetime - it has ZERO collectible value.

When I'm gone and my heirs decide to sell it who cares if they only get 50 cents for it. that's fifty cents more than they had.

Everyone's a winner there.

The only time all that stuff should matter is if you're planning on selling it as a framed item.
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Old 05-18-2012, 09:26 AM
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Hey I'm just trying to offer the best help I can. Like the advice of a doctor or lawyer you can take what I have to say, or leave it. But you'll probably wind up regretting it.

Make no mistake, there is a right way and a wrong way to display any item, and you all are quite simply doing it the wrong way. Go ahead and treat your collections like junk. Because that's what it'll be after a few decades of display the way you all are doing it.

Let's forget money already. I don't collect for the money. I collect because I love these cards as works of art, as piece of history, and as relics of a past-time that is dead. Yes, dead. And there are reasons beyond money for bothering to take care of things that mean a lot to you.

Would you store a box of photographs or films in a hot attic, or in your basement beneath a dripping waterpipe? Would fill your classic car with regular unleaded, and let it sit out in the sun all summer uncovered, exposed to the elements and the birds? Sure, you can, but why would you if you truly care about those things?

I don't know about the rest of you, but I was brought up to believe that when you care about something, you treat it right, and take care of it. My Charles Lindbergh banner has little monetary value, but I care about it as a piece of history and a treasured hand-me-down from my grandfather. So I intend to treat it properly and display it right. And I wanted to share my experience with everyone else. And I am grateful to my dad, who kept his cards in boxes all those years. Not because he viewed them as commodities. But because he loved those cards. And dammit, he was going to take care of them, and keep them safe.

But I'm just one voice, and really, what do I know? I only studied history and archival research in school. I only studied studied film preservation along the way to my masters in cinema and photography. I only worked for two years as a freelancer who specialized preserving films, obsolete tape formats and photographic negatives and Kodachromes. And I'm currently just a paid professional who does historical research and archival management of a stock film library for a major film production company. And I've only been collecting stamps, coins and ball cards for the last 23 years of my life.

What do I know?

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Old 05-18-2012, 12:30 PM
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Brianruns, I appreciate what you're saying, but I think there is an element that you are missing.

For the record I am a published historian myself and have done extensive research work for three major university athletic programs and the Hall Of Fame.

That being said, one has to realize that - in many cases - we're just dealing with cardboard here. There is no "value" to any of it other than the emotional value that one applies to it. There is a factor of preserving such items so that future citizens might experience that same emotional value, but if it comes at a cost of depleting the emotional value for the current owner, that's counterproductive.

There are tons of things out there that I wish someone from the 1910's had bothered to save and preserve so that I could enjoy it today, but that's also part of the rarity of history. It's fleeting. I'm sure everyone alive today wishes the previous owners of the Dead Sea Scrolls had thought to preserve the entire document in UV protectant glass away from direct sunlight in a climate controlled room, flat and with acid-free paper. But that didn't happen.

That's one reason I don't deal in graded cards. To me it seperates the item from my enjoyment and places it at measurment of someone else's enjoyment.

I get what your saying, but flaunting some credentials in some effort to trump the validity of how someone else handles their "worthless" items seems a bit disengenuous.
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Old 05-18-2012, 12:47 PM
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Hey I'm just trying to offer the best help I can
Everybody on the board appreciates and thanks you for it.

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What do I know?
Evidently, a lot.


I was just suggesting an alternate (and cheaper) option, which happens to be what I would do (if I had the wall space to display any of my 100+ sheets), and because I think many people take this stuff way too seriously.

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