Babe Ruth single-signed baseball... but with TTA Authentication

[Splinte1941]

Oh, I've figured it out Travis. The entire thing is comical. I applaud the big two for understanding the market, cornering it, and then, as you correctly pointed out, making their COAs more valuable than the signatures they are rubber-stamping. It's total genius and as businessmen, they should be applauded. As authenticators, that's for someone else to decide.

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by Splinte1941

as businessmen, they should be applauded. As authenticators, that's for someone else to decide.

Large amounts of money spent on advertising is what helped PSA to corner the market. Then Jimmy Spence left PSA but he benefited from the money that had already been spent on advertising.
As authenticators they are no better, and maybe worse, than the top dealers that I have listed here many times,,, Stinson, Gordon, Albersheim, Keating, Corcoran, Cariseo and Lelands and Alexander Autographs for auction houses. None of these I have named use third party authentication. They don't have to. They don't want to. They will dispute the myth that you have to have your stuff authenticated by a TPA in order to sell it. I would also trust the opinion of Ron Keurajian over any of the TPA's.
One of the TPA's just had two VERY high priced single signed baseballs removed from ebay despite COA's.
Collectors continue to make the mistake of rating the TPA's as the best in the business, that if you don't have a TPA cert. with an item, you can never be sure if it is good. Well I have listed many items here over the years where that is not the case. I am aware of many more items where that is not the case. (anyone thinking of Donavon now?).
If collectors stay with good dealers and don't keep trying to look for those great deals (we have seen that lately here) then maybe we can help clean up the hobby.

[GrayGhost]

Originally Posted by richardsimon

large amounts of money spent on advertising is what helped psa to corner the market. Then jimmy spence left psa but he benefited from the money that had already been spent on advertising.
As authenticators they are no better, and maybe worse, than the top dealers that i have listed here many times,,, stinson, gordon, albersheim, keating, corcoran, cariseo and lelands and alexander autographs for auction houses. None of these i have named use third party authentication. They don't have to. They don't want to. They will dispute the myth that you have to have your stuff authenticated by a tpa in order to sell it. I would also trust the opinion of ron keurajian over any of the tpa's.
One of the tpa's just had two very high priced single signed baseballs removed from ebay despite coa's.
Collectors continue to make the mistake of rating the tpa's as the best in the business, that if you don't have a tpa cert. With an item, you can never be sure if it is good. Well i have listed many items here over the years where that is not the case. I am aware of many more items where that is not the case. (anyone thinking of donavon now?).
If collectors stay with good dealers and don't keep trying to look for those great deals (we have seen that lately here) then maybe we can help clean up the hobby.

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[travrosty]

Originally Posted by RichardSimon

Large amounts of money spent on advertising is what helped PSA to corner the market. Then Jimmy Spence left PSA but he benefited from the money that had already been spent on advertising.
As authenticators they are no better, and maybe worse, than the top dealers that I have listed here many times,,, Stinson, Gordon, Albersheim, Keating, Corcoran, Cariseo and Lelands and Alexander Autographs for auction houses. None of these I have named use third party authentication. They don't have to. They don't want to. They will dispute the myth that you have to have your stuff authenticated by a TPA in order to sell it. I would also trust the opinion of Ron Keurajian over any of the TPA's.
One of the TPA's just had two VERY high priced single signed baseballs removed from ebay despite COA's.
Collectors continue to make the mistake of rating the TPA's as the best in the business, that if you don't have a TPA cert. with an item, you can never be sure if it is good. Well I have listed many items here over the years where that is not the case. I am aware of many more items where that is not the case. (anyone thinking of Donavon now?).
If collectors stay with good dealers and don't keep trying to look for those great deals (we have seen that lately here) then maybe we can help clean up the hobby.

agreed, they are resting on the laurels that were bought for them, and just because an item does not have a golden ticket loa from the top 2, doesnt mean that its a fake, like they want you to believe.

i also trust some of the good dealers and guys with experience over some anonymous person who i dont even know the name of who might have glanced at my autograph for a few sparse seconds, and just because their company name is whoopdedoo and whoopdedoo#2 I am suppose to be impressed?

they can start by telling me exactly who looked at the autograph, maybe showing a few exemplars when asked, admitting a mistake when they make one and making it right, but they do not.

[Big Dave]

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