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Old 05-15-2012, 03:35 AM
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Please see below posts for several examples

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Old 05-15-2012, 09:12 AM
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Greg,

These are the other graded Fro Joy cards I have. I wanted to post them for you. They both pass the black light test and both have the unbroken black box on back.
Also I wanted to thank you for verifying my two raw Ruth candy cards are real. I had them for over 6 years and always wondered about their authenticity (especially card #6). Thanks again.

Howard

PS. Great job on this thread. Hopefully it will prevent someone from being burned buying a fake Ruth.
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Old 05-16-2012, 04:09 PM
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Howard, thank you for mentioning it.


I'm confident on this in terms of real vs fake with the 1928 George Ruth Candy cards:


Fake: Small card number with sepia image and grey back (deceptive counterfeits mentioned in the catalog)
Fake: Small card number with poor, blotchy black and white image, grey back (deceptive counterfeits mentioned in the catalog)
Fake: Small card number with a poor, severely cropped front image

Real: backs are beige or brownish on vintage paper, or high quality white vintage paper like Leon's (white backs too).
Real: Quality white paper with small card number, beige/brownish back
Real: Haven't located a fake with a large card number
Real: Small card number with correctly colored back, which will have a quality front image
Real: Blank backs or ad backs



Examples of the small card number with grey back, one sepia and one black and white:











Examples of a correctly colored backs, which include an obviously better front image:












For each card in the set, there should exist a deceptive counterfeit that has either:
1. Small card number with a grey back and a very blotchy, dark tinted black and white front image
2. Small card number with a grey back and sepia front image,
(like the two above examples)





Card #2 is the toughest but easy if you consider these (real on top, fake on bottom):
  • Bottom left: poor, severely cropped front image (foot all the way to the bottom of the frame, real cards can make it near the bottom but not all the way)
  • Bottom middle: small card number, sepia image, grey back
  • Bottom right: small card number, pitiful black and white image, grey back






Card #6 is tough but easy considering this (top real, bottom fake):







Card #4 (real on top, fake on bottom):








Card #3 (all real):







Card #1 (real on top, fake on bottom):






Fro Joy's are easier than these

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*****I'd only buy a card with a small card number from a trusted source. It would have to be photo-engraved, with the correctly colored back, and no fluorescing under the black light. If I owned one, I'd authenticate my own like we did earlier in this thread and print my own authentication sheet with the findings.*****
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These Ruth Candy cards are rare, therefore, there are not enough images to say for sure, but based on the images I've found (Please attach your Ruth Candy card to this thread if you have one so we can figure this out),

1. Cleveland used white paper, images both black and white and sepia, with sepia images resulting in a slight beige appearance.

2. San Francisco used brownish paper with black and white images, which caused the black and white image to be beig-ish and somewhat sepia colored (don't have one so it's hard to tell

Therefore, blank backs can be correlated with a particular city if this is correct:


Cleveland's white paper:














San Francisco's brownish paper:







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Kind of a side topic, but shows that the image on the #2 of the George Ruth Candy set was re-used in the Tabacalera set.
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Gary, you have a great Ruth collection, and that one is nice.
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While searching for Ruth Candy cards, I came across numerous fakes that were sold by some auction house type site called Coach's Corner, so y'all may want to be very cautious there with anything.
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The guy I mentioned with the Fro Joy set, who also has a neighbor with two Fro Joy sets, let me use images of his BVG graded George Ruth Candy #4. He's sending me a scan of the back later today, but here's a front scan, front and back pictures, and a re-post of scans of my #4 card.

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