Autograph Help - Are these real? Williams, DiMaggio, Mantle, Mays, Aaron, Ali.

[Deertick]

The bulk seem to be in FL. That may be because I am more aware of the local stuff, or because it seems to be originating here. But I am aware of heavy infestations in Texas and Pennsylvania, and other pockets that show up, as James Wymer recently outed. The only thing we can do is keep the pressure on.

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by Deertick

The bulk seem to be in FL. That may be because I am more aware of the local stuff, or because it seems to be originating here. But I am aware of heavy infestations in Texas and Pennsylvania, and other pockets that show up, as James Wymer recently outed. The only thing we can do is keep the pressure on.

Like Richard always says "It smells of orange juice and beaches."

[Deertick]

Originally Posted by thetruthisoutthere

Like Richard always says "It smells of orange juice and beaches."

Richard is jealous.

Soxfan12, is it possible to pm me with the name? It would be helpful to keep them on the radar, regardless of the outcome. I would not "out" them without another transgression (ie. giving you your money back and attempting to resell them next month). We do give credit where warranted when the auctioneers do the right thing.

My goal is to throttle the outlets for this crap, until the scammers are forced to try and sell it on a median when the light is red. Ooh,wait! Even better, when the light is green!

[Wymers Auction]

Originally Posted by Deertick

Richard is jealous.

Soxfan12, is it possible to pm me with the name? It would be helpful to keep them on the radar, regardless of the outcome. I would not "out" them without another transgression (ie. giving you your money back and attempting to resell them next month). We do give credit where warranted when the auctioneers do the right thing.

My goal is to throttle the outlets for this crap, until the scammers are forced to try and sell it on a median when the light is red. Ooh,wait! Even better, when the light is green!

You forgot at the green light they have to swear to be a disabled veteran also. Certainly no disrespect for those wonderful men and ladies in uniform certainly.

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by Deertick

Richard is jealous.

As a diehard New Yorker it would take a lot more than sand and orange juice to make me jealous .
Especially with the Rangers 7 wins away from the Stanley Cup .

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by Deertick

The bulk seem to be in FL. because it seems to be originating here.

You got that right.

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by RichardSimon

You got that right.

Ditto.

[soxfan12]

Just an update for everyone, I went back to the auction house earlier today and I was, thankfully, able to get my money back. I had printed out several articles and pictures from online, including all of your responses in this thread, and the manager was very understanding and refunded 100% of my money, including the buyer's premium and tax.

They said they received a call from someone in Florida (big surprise, it sounds like...) asking if they could sell some autographs at the auction and they asked if they were real. The auction house was told the were and they all came with certificates of authenticity. But, because they are so busy, they didn't double check them all. And, based on their disappointment that they sold fake items and understanding of my situation, I do believe this was an honest mistake and a learning experience for us all.

So, thank you to everyone on here for all of your insight. Because of all your help, I was able to get my money back. And now I'll certainly be more aware of what to look for as I build my collection.

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by soxfan12

Just an update for everyone, I went back to the auction house earlier today and I was, thankfully, able to get my money back. I had printed out several articles and pictures from online, including all of your responses in this thread, and the manager was very understanding and refunded 100% of my money, including the buyer's premium and tax.

They said they received a call from someone in Florida (big surprise, it sounds like...) asking if they could sell some autographs at the auction and they asked if they were real. The auction house was told the were and they all came with certificates of authenticity. But, because they are so busy, they didn't double check them all. And, based on their disappointment that they sold fake items and understanding of my situation, I do believe this was an honest mistake and a learning experience for us all.

So, thank you to everyone on here for all of your insight. Because of all your help, I was able to get my money back. And now I'll certainly be more aware of what to look for as I build my collection.

That's great news!!!! You're one of the few who has actually received a refund from this crap that originates from Florida. This crap has been infecting the hobby for a long time.

[RichardSimon]

Glad to hear it!
I am shocked, shocked to find out that these autographs came from Florida .

[soxfan12]

After thinking about it for a bit, and being encouraged, I thought I'd let you all know where this whole thing originated from. The auction house from which I bought the pictures is Houston Brooks in Maine. I have been going to their auctions for a while and have never seen them do anything that made me wary about their operation, which is part of the reason why I didn't want to mention them. And I think they deserve a lot of credit for how they handled this situation. They also said they aren't going to get the money back from the supplier and were still willing to give me the full refund. So I hope you all can understand why I was a little hesitant to mention them. I just don't want them tarnished for something that, I truly believe, was an honest mistake. They also asked me to leave with them some information from this website and ebay's banned COA list that will give them a starting point for their research the next time something comes in. So, thanks again to you all for the help.