1928 George Ruth Candy Cards (Set of 6)

[HBroll]

Greg,

I think you are on to something about the better quality cards might be real. Like you said, the forgers would need a "model" to create their fakes and these better quality cards might be them. The one card you showed (the #2 card with the grey back) I think is fake also. My #6 better quality card has a beige/brown-ish back not a grey back like that one.

I put the cards side by side and scanned them at 1200 DPI both front and back. The #6 card (better quality one) is on the right in all of the photos. The 1st photo is the front top corners. Photo #2 is the front middle of the cards. Photo #3 is the front bottom corners. Photo 4 is the back bottom corners and photo 5 is the back middle of the cards.

I also did your "smell" test and both cards smell like an old book. I smelled one of my reprint Exhibit cards and it has a totally different smell to it. I see what you mean by that now.

I think that card in the PSA 2 Good holder is mine. I think the original owner broke it out when it was sold. I read the description in the auction and it said the lower grade cards were downgraded due to a very light crease near the bottom of the card. I looked at my card with a magnifying glass and there is a very very light horizontal crease at the bottom of the card just like the write up says.

I will be leaving to go over my mom's house for Mothers day but I will be back around mid afternoon. Thanks!

Howard

[Clutch-Hitter]

My bad Howard, if you don't mind, when you crop into it, make it big enough to get some of the part with the picture of each card in it as well and some of the text from each card in the lower parts. That way we'll be able to see the engravings and letters on the paper and the paper itself. If you have a Fro Joy, try it with that also, especially if it's clean. Dirty vs clean makes a big difference with the two issues. I'd like to put your card beside my standing portrait because it's clean plus I have some clean Fro Joys.

You know, a clean e121 might work as Leon has said in the past. Interesting how white and how good the paper looks on your #6. The one you did in which you can see some engraving looks good.

Thanks Howard

[HBroll]

Greg,

Here are the new photos. These were done at 1200 DPI with the better quality card #6 on the right. The first 4 photos are close ups of the 2 cards side by side and the last photo is a complete strip of the 2 cards side by side showing where I took the close ups from. If you need anymore photos let me know. Thanks.

Howard

PS. The other Ruth candy cards & Fro joy cards I have are graded and these are the only raw cards of this type I have.

[Clutch-Hitter]

Dang Howard, that card is photo engraved and the paper is right, looks Fro Joy-ish for sure. Beautiful card.


Cropped images on any and all are highly suspect at this point and may be the indicator to look for. Going to gather examples of each card if possible for examples of full size images and examples with cropped images, so we'll know what each should look like.

I haven't found a single cropped image of Babe and wife, or of Babe and boy, and I don't think I've found one of Babe kissing the little girl, which are probably the three least significant to most people. If real cards have cropped images, there should be examples of those three cards as well, otherwise that's more evidence indicating cards with cropped images are fake.

[Clutch-Hitter]

Howard, can you post you graded Ruth Candy cards?

[HBroll]

Yes I will post my graded Fro joys & Ruth candy cards too.

I have a question.
It was stated that the "chase" card in the Ruth candy card set was card #6. Now in the auction write up in one of your posts it states the chase card is #3. What is your experience with that? Have you seen the #3 card more or is the #6 card more rare? What would be your guess on which card is the chase card for this set. I get back to you with the pics. Thanks.

Howard

[Clutch-Hitter]

Originally Posted by HBroll

Yes I will post my graded Fro joys & Ruth candy cards too.

I have a question.
It was stated that the "chase" card in the Ruth candy card set was card #6. Now in the auction write up in one of your posts it states the chase card is #3. What is your experience with that? Have you seen the #3 card more or is the #6 card more rare? What would be your guess on which card is the chase card for this set. I get back to you with the pics. Thanks.

Howard

I don't know. I think FKW was saying the #6 card, where he's signing the ball.


Forgot about these cropped ones. I'd guess that because these cards are pictured together as a set, based on that and the cropped images, fake: