Proxibid Adopts Banned COA List Similar to EBAY

[RichardSimon]

Things are getting done.
And to those who have criticized threads and posts here, you know who you are, well, when you accomplish something let us know, and I don't mean posting on a thread. I mean really doing something.

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by RichardSimon

Things are getting done.
And to those who have criticized threads and posts here, you know who you are, well, when you accomplish something let us know, and I don't mean posting on a thread. I mean really doing something.

Ditto.

[7nohitter]

Great work...many thanks to those 'squeaky wheels!'

[jgmp123]

Richard,

The work that you and Chris do does not go unnoticed. You guys are making a large impact in protecting victims from fraud and forgeries.

Many thanks for what you guys are doing.

[slidekellyslide]

A big blow to Justin Priddy. the Fakers and Forgers will have to find a new venue.

[Wymers Auction]

Now you guys need to march on to auctionzip.com.

[Wymers Auction]

I want to thank everyone again. I sell on there often and occasionally I sell an autograph. The prices of my autographs suffer because a Ty Cobb signature that I claim is worth $1000 on a bad day sells for $760 because $200 fakes are everywhere.

[Wymers Auction]

I did not post a link because this is in the member's page which requires a login.
Sports Cards & Sports Memorabilia
PREFERRED GRADING & AUTOGRAPH AUTHENTICATORS
The following companies are considered to be reputable, trusted sports cards and sport memorabilia grading and autograph/signature authentication services. These companies are recognized throughout the hobby and industry as the market leaders. Proxibid approves other authenticators outside of this list, but these are the preferred authenticators for Sports Cards and Sports Memorabilia.
Sports Card Grading Services:
 Beckett Grading Service (BGS) including Beckett Classic Card Grading (BCCG)
 Professional Sports Authenticators (PSA/DNA)
 Sportscard Guarantee Corporation (SGC)
Autograph/Signature Authentication Services:
 Beckett Grading Service (BGS)
 Global Authentics, LLC
 James Spence Authentication
 Professional Sports Authenticators (PSA/DNA)
Leading Providers of Authentic Pre-Certified Sports Memorabilia
 All Authentic Sports Memorabilia
 Mounted Memories
 Onyx Authenticated
 Panini Authentic
 Steiner Sports
 TriStar Productions, Inc.
 Upper Deck Authenticated (UDA)
BANNED AUTHENTICATORS FROM PROXIBID
Autographed items with a Certificate of Authenticity (COA) or Letter of Authenticity (LOA) from the following companies, organizations, and individuals have been banned from being listed and sold on Proxibid:
 Any company, organization, or individual listed on the FBI’s Operation Bullpen website
 Autograph Certification Experts (ACE)
 Christopher L. Morales
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 Coach's Corner Sports Auctions LLC
 CSC Collectibles
 Donald Frangipani
 Forensic Document Services
 Greg Marino
 Hollywood Dreams
 J. DiMaggio Co. / J. DiMaggio Company
 Jim Bellino
 Legends Sports Memorabilia
 Nathan's Autographs / N.E. Autographs
 Nicholas Burczyk
 Pro Sports / Pro Sports Memorabilia
 Rare and Signed.com
 Robert Prouty
 R.R.'s Sports Cards & Collectibles
 SCAA / Front Page Art / Angelo Marino
 Slamdunk Sportscards & Memorabilia
 Sports Alley Memorabilia
 Sports Management Group
 Stan's Sports / Stans Sports Memorabilia
 TTA Authentic (formerly STAT Authentic)
 Universal Memorabilia
 XMI Authentications
 USA Authentics
 640 Sports/YMC Sports Memorabilia
Any sellers listing items that have been authenticated by the above organizations will have those lots removed from their auction. If any lots do not specify the authenticator and show a picture of the certificate/letter of authenticity, the lot will be removed from the auction. Additionally, Proxibid reserves the right to pull a lot from an auction if they find that the authenticator is not reputable.

[Deertick]

Originally Posted by Wymers Auction

Now you guys need to march on to auctionzip.com.

James, Auctionzip does not run or provide a platform for auctions, They are just a listing service, a new-school classified if you will. It does make it easier to find the auctions selling this stuff.

I just got back from Butterfield Auction in Zephryhills, FL. I spoke with the management and voiced my concerns about the CSC and YMC COA's on items they had consigned. I left them the eBay banned list, along with a suggestion they check out net54. They acknowledged the issue and said they will explicitly disavow the COA's, and inform bidders that the authenticity of the items are in question and to bid (or not bid) accordingly. I don't believe they could pull the items as there is no proof that the consignor knows they are forgeries.

I also asked them to give consideration to refusing future consignments of this nature. To their credit, they were very open to the info, as most legitimate businesses are. That they even gave me the time of day, speaks to their integrity.

http://www.butterfieldsauctions.com/...gi?butterfield

[Wymers Auction]

Jim I understand auctionzip.com they have a service called auctionzip live that is similar to proxibid.com. That is what I was referring to. If you can get the bidding platform to stop allowing these items then you do not have to go after every single auction house. I believe that maybe you have not looked at AZ in awhile they surely have a platform and it is about as big as proxibid.com.

[Deertick]

Sorry, looking at my comment, it sounds a little condescending. I meant it to be informative.

Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't Auctionzip Live sort of like a phone bid? By my thinking, Proxibid is like eBay and should have a responsibilty of content. Auctionzip Live is like the telephone company. Just a conduit. Don't get me wrong, it would be great if they stepped up on this. I just don't think they will see the issue as being in their purview.

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by Deertick

James, Auctionzip does not run or provide a platform for auctions, They are just a listing service, a new-school classified if you will. It does make it easier to find the auctions selling this stuff.

I just got back from Butterfield Auction in Zephryhills, FL. I spoke with the management and voiced my concerns about the CSC and YMC COA's on items they had consigned. I left them the eBay banned list, along with a suggestion they check out net54. They acknowledged the issue and said they will explicitly disavow the COA's, and inform bidders that the authenticity of the items are in question and to bid (or not bid) accordingly. I don't believe they could pull the items as there is no proof that the consignor knows they are forgeries.

I also asked them to give consideration to refusing future consignments of this nature. To their credit, they were very open to the info, as most legitimate businesses are. That they even gave me the time of day, speaks to their integrity.

http://www.butterfieldsauctions.com/...gi?butterfield

One thing I would bet on, those buyers are aware of what they are buying, because they are buying it for resale. This stuff is like a bad cold, it just keeps spreading, from one thief to another.

[Wymers Auction]

Deertick I understand your feelings toward this auction house. The problem is that many of them will seem really genuine and wanting to do the right thing, but they sell the items anyways. As an auctioneer it does not matter whatsoever if the consignor knows they are fake or not. I research them, I find them to be fake or I authenticate them 3rd party and they fail it is my butt if I sell them. My reputation is worth much more than some garbage fakes. I tried to reason with this LLP auctioneer that he could play around and lose his license for this, but he chose not to respond to me.

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by RichardSimon

One thing I would bet on, those buyers are aware of what they are buying, because they are buying it for resale. This stuff is like a bad cold, it just keeps spreading, from one thief to another.

I agree with Richard on the fact that these buyers know exactly what they are purchasing. They are buying cheap to resell for 5X to 10X their purchase price.

I also gave Proxibid too much credit in the beginning when they removed the catalog of LLP Auctions. Proxibid allowed LLP Auctions to re-list that garbage an they have yet to remove any of the other listings that I suggested they remove.

The only company that was cooperative was Aaron Joseph & Company, who voluntarily removed all of their "CSC Collectibles" auctions and returned them to the consignor (CSC Collectibles).