NonSports Forum

Net54baseball.com
Welcome to Net54baseball.com. These forums are devoted to both Pre- and Post- war baseball cards and vintage memorabilia, as well as other sports. There is a separate section for Buying, Selling and Trading - the B/S/T area!! If you write anything concerning a person or company your full name needs to be in your post or obtainable from it. . Contact the moderator at leon@net54baseball.com should you have any questions or concerns. When you click on links to eBay on this site and make a purchase, this can result in this site earning a commission. Affiliate programs and affiliations include, but are not limited to, the eBay Partner Network. Enjoy!
Net54baseball.com
Net54baseball.com
ebay GSB
T206s on eBay
Babe Ruth Cards on eBay
t206 Ty Cobb on eBay
Ty Cobb Cards on eBay
Lou Gehrig Cards on eBay
Baseball T201-T217 on eBay
Baseball E90-E107 on eBay
T205 Cards on eBay
Baseball Postcards on eBay
Goudey Cards on eBay
Baseball Memorabilia on eBay
Baseball Exhibit Cards on eBay
Baseball Strip Cards on eBay
Baseball Baking Cards on eBay
Sporting News Cards on eBay
Play Ball Cards on eBay
Joe DiMaggio Cards on eBay
Mickey Mantle Cards on eBay
Bowman 1951-1955 on eBay
Football Cards on eBay

Go Back   Net54baseball.com Forums > Net54baseball Main Forum - WWII & Older Baseball Cards > Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 05-09-2012, 08:29 AM
Vegas-guy's Avatar
Vegas-guy Vegas-guy is offline
Reg
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 387
Default

I'm selling it! My wife and I have no kids nor do we plan on having any. I'll be 40 this year so figure keeping maybe 20 years or so and selling to help with retirement
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 05-09-2012, 08:49 AM
bbcard1 bbcard1 is offline
T0dd M@rcum
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Roanoke, VA
Posts: 3,426
Default

I cannot think of doing anything less kind to my son that passing on my collection to them. The real joy in collecting is in the assembly, the stories and the people you meet along the way.

I liquadated the collection of a friend last year. It was a joy to be of service to his family. He died at 51 and the extra money will help his daughter (14) in college. It was a whole lot of work and took the better part of a year (eventually netting around $50K for the family). Sometimes I think I could have done a little better, but given the economy, I think I did fine. I fear I have no good candidates to do the same for me so I may thin the herd over the next few years. I fully suspect I have another 30 or 40 years on this earth, but I would like to have more marketable chunks and less random cards. It is just easier to sell a 1961 Topps set than an accumulation of random cards or equal value.

I have given my son some rudimentary instruction on extrapolating reasonable value, but honestly it would be hard right now.

I heard one the other day that I think sums it up for most of us on this board...My greatest fear is that I might die unexpectedly and my wife would sell my baseball cards for what I told her I paid for them.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 05-09-2012, 09:08 AM
rdixon1208's Avatar
rdixon1208 rdixon1208 is offline
R Dixon
Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Houston Area
Posts: 626
Default Good topic

I'll sell mine if I ever get tired of having/collecting them or really need the money for something else, but otherwise I don't have any plans. Some people say they plan to sell off during retirement or to supplement retirement. That's crazy talk. When I retire I want to go to more shows, meet more collectors, etc. I do think it's a good idea to leave sell off instructions for the family just in case though.
__________________
R Dixon

Last edited by rdixon1208; 05-09-2012 at 09:09 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 05-09-2012, 09:43 AM
Hankphenom Hankphenom is online now
Hank Thomas
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 3,026
Default

Everything goes to Dan McKee.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 05-09-2012, 10:30 AM
wonkaticket wonkaticket is offline
John
J0hn McD@niel
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 2,668
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hankphenom View Post
Everything goes to Dan McKee.
I guess I'll give my stuff to McKee too.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 05-09-2012, 10:52 AM
Ladder7's Avatar
Ladder7 Ladder7 is offline
Steve F
St.eve F@llet.ti
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Atlantis
Posts: 2,030
Default

I croak... Guaranteed, two weeks later;

Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 05-09-2012, 11:06 AM
Exhibitman's Avatar
Exhibitman Exhibitman is offline
Ad@m W@r$h@w
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Beautiful Downtown Burbank
Posts: 13,929
Default

They'll have to pry my cards from my cold, dead fingers. After that, I don't care. If she outlives me the wife will take great pleasure in liquidating, I am sure, regardless of the net result.
__________________
Read my blog; it will make all your dreams come true.

https://adamstevenwarshaw.substack.com/

Or not...

Last edited by Exhibitman; 05-09-2012 at 11:07 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 05-09-2012, 09:47 AM
t206wagner t206wagner is offline
D@vid Mor1@rty
member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: New York
Posts: 118
Default

I plan on keeping my cards as long as I can unless I know of someone (family or friends) that needs help financially. In that case, they will be sold. I can always buy them again.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 05-09-2012, 10:07 AM
iggyman's Avatar
iggyman iggyman is offline
I. "Iggy" G0nz@lez
"rich"
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 943
Default

This quote in this article sums up my estate planning perspective....

"When I first started collecting, I had no plan," Montague said. "I was drunk with the passion to collect. I had no plan to do anything with it but keep it. To hoard it for myself. Have it in my house. It was for me. I was doing it for Magnificent Montague."

Yep, the "Magnificent Iggy" collection. Me likes .

Here is the full article (a good read): http://www.cnn.com/2012/05/08/us/mon...ion/index.html

Lovely day...
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 05-09-2012, 11:45 AM
Tomman1961 Tomman1961 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 276
Default

Great post.
I was diagnosed with rectal cancer in 2008 when I was 47 years old. I beat it. I have a son and a daughter. No one in the family has an interest in my cards. I told my wife straight out-if I die- SELL THEM. While slaying the Monster(Cancer-not T206), I gave her a list of reputible auction houses and card dealers to appraise my collection. It was last appraisd in 1992. I have purged my collection of anything before 1976. It is possible that when I hit my 70's or 80's I may start to sell it off before I pass away. Anyway-I told my wife to sell it off.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 05-09-2012, 08:23 PM
g_vezina_c55's Avatar
g_vezina_c55 g_vezina_c55 is offline
nels0n aud.et
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 1,731
Default

Probably sell it, i see it as a hobby but as an investment too

I am 30 so my idéa might change but i will sell my collection except if my son will have interest in card.

If my son love this hobby, my collection will be for my son

It is my 2 option

Last edited by g_vezina_c55; 05-09-2012 at 08:28 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 05-09-2012, 11:46 PM
Texxxx Texxxx is offline
Bruce C@rter
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Lubbock, Texas
Posts: 468
Default

I guess I am lucky on this. My son is into collecting and knows my collection just about as well as I do. He doesn't collect the same sets though. I know he is do that so when he gets mine he want have a lot of multiples but a really nice collection. I have actually made it a point not to get what he has now also.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 05-09-2012, 10:11 AM
Deertick Deertick is offline
Jim M.arinari
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Where Forgeries Abound, FL
Posts: 1,485
Default

I'm going to leave them to someone I don't like.

My collection isn't part of my retirement plan. I have that covered by six randomly selected numbers drawn twice weekly.
__________________
"If you ever discover the sneakers for far more shoes in your everyday individual, and also have a wool, will not disregard the going connected with sneakers by Isabel Marant a person." =AcellaGet
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 05-09-2012, 10:13 AM
Tsaiko's Avatar
Tsaiko Tsaiko is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 290
Default

I'm in a really tough spot on "my" collection, which is really my grandma's collection. I value them tremendously and have for over 50 years, since she gave them to me; to the point of coming here to learn as much as I could about the hobby, scanning each one and creating a website. The reaction to all of this from my family has been, "yawn, that's cool, how much are they worth?".

I only have two nephews to leave them to and I'm pretty sure they'd be sold before before I was pushed into the cremation oven, but at least they could benefit from having no tax consequences.

Ideally I like her collection to be part of the hobby forever, by having a collector keep the whole collection intact, but that may never happen.

Of course, in the case of a health emergency, it is in the back of my mind that they might come to my rescue at some point and grandma would be happy about that.

So, OP, you're young and you're plans may change, but I'm old and my plans may change, so some things never change.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 05-09-2012, 10:24 AM
aljurgela's Avatar
aljurgela aljurgela is offline
Al Jurgela
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: South Carolina
Posts: 709
Default Great topic

I guess the really important thing is to understand the tax consequences. A few years ago an heir could acquire the "stepped up basis" in the asset when you passed - meaning material tax avoidance for them. Not sure if this has changed, but it would be worthwhile to investigate.

If you paid 10k for a collection that was worth 100k. They would only pay taxes on their gain above $100k... a great deal to them.

I have started to introduce my wife to some key auction houses and may even negotiate terms with them in the case that I pass unexpectantly.

Really hope that my son ends up with a passion for this stuff, but if not, would love to make the right choices for them to go after things and experiences that make them tick.
__________________
Al Jurgela
Looking for:
1910 Punch (Plank)
50 Hage's Dairy (Minoso)
All Oscar Charleston Cards
Rare Soccer cards
Rare Boxing cards
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 05-09-2012, 10:25 AM
zljones's Avatar
zljones zljones is offline
Zach
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Illinois
Posts: 659
Default

Plan upon keeping them until I die. After I die I will try to leave them with someone whom really wants them and will love them. If I can't will just pass it to someone that will do whatever besides destroy them. At that point I will not care, I will be dead, so it will not matter. I do not even care about my body after death, just cremate it, so I surely would not care too much about my possessions since I will no longer exist.
I hope I can find someone who will be ecstatic to own them. But if not, o well, I will be dead anyway. These cards are special to me know and I am enthused, but how can one truely know what happens to their cards after they die? So I am just not going to worry about it. My concern now is keeping what I have until I am gone.
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 05-09-2012, 11:23 AM
T206Collector's Avatar
T206Collector T206Collector is offline
Paul
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 4,697
Default Howe McCormick knew what he was doing!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tsaiko View Post
Ideally I like her collection to be part of the hobby forever, by having a collector keep the whole collection intact, but that may never happen.
I am considering coming up with a really cool "T206Collector" stamp -- or one with my real name "Paul T206Collector". I will stamp the backs of all of my signed T206 cards. I do not expect that this would detract from their value, which was joined as soon as the player put his autograph on his card. I figure that is a surefire way to at least encourage a future collector to recapture them all, and keep the collection together.

Howe McCormick knew what he was doing!
__________________
Galleries and Articles about T206 Player Autographs
www.SignedT206.com

www.instagram.com/signedT206/
@SignedT206
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 05-09-2012, 11:31 AM
drc drc is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 2,621
Default

Back when I had a large photograph collection, I labelled and put the photos in categories (original versus later generation, date, photographer, etc) and gave my family the name of a couple of auction houses in case I died. Though in the end, I sold them off on my own.

I think the best and #1 and one essential thing you can do for your relatives is to give someone the name(s) of an auction house, dealer or even Net54 collector the family member can go to. Most people will have no clue where or how to sell the items nor what exactly are the items. If it's just a small collection not worthy of REA or Lelands, the collector can give advice on what to do. I highly recommend that anyone with a collection reading this go and do that one thing today. Unless you don't mind the idea of your E, T and N collection being offered in a "3 for 1$, 20 for $4" bin at a garage sale with the unsold dropped off at Saint Vincent de Paul or the recycle bin. Realize that with the stories I hear here of people keeping their purchases (and, of course more important, purchase prices) from their wives, some wives and relatives might not even realize your collection has financial value, or at least the extent of the value.

Last edited by drc; 05-09-2012 at 11:58 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 05-09-2012, 08:16 PM
Tsaiko's Avatar
Tsaiko Tsaiko is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 290
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by T206Collector View Post
I am considering coming up with a really cool "T206Collector" stamp -- or one with my real name "Paul T206Collector". I will stamp the backs of all of my signed T206 cards. I do not expect that this would detract from their value, which was joined as soon as the player put his autograph on his card. I figure that is a surefire way to at least encourage a future collector to recapture them all, and keep the collection together.

Howe McCormick knew what he was doing!
Interesting. I don't know if I'd feel comfortable stamping the backs of all my gram's cards. One possible fear would be that someone would duplicate the stamp and claim that their cards are part of the same collection. I suppose if the stamp were intricate enough it would be hard to copy, but still, what's really uncopyable these days.

A lot of interesting plans expressed here. I suffer from the delusion that there's always going to be a tomorrow to plan for this. I better make some plans!
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 05-09-2012, 04:59 PM
rainier2004's Avatar
rainier2004 rainier2004 is offline
Steven
Member
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Spartan Country, MI
Posts: 2,040
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by rdixon1208 View Post
Some people say they plan to sell off during retirement or to supplement retirement. That's crazy talk. When I retire I want to go to more shows, meet more collectors, etc. I do think it's a good idea to leave sell off instructions for the family just in case though.
That sounds great...
Reply With Quote
Reply




Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Early Baseball/Football Equipment Estate Auction Find vintagesportflips Net54baseball Sports (Primarily) Vintage Memorabilia Forum incl. Game Used 7 09-17-2009 04:36 PM
Pottsville AC/Maroons Baseball/Football Estate Auction find vintagesportflips Net54baseball Sports (Primarily) Vintage Memorabilia Forum incl. Game Used 4 07-12-2009 01:08 PM
Your best find at an Estate Auction Archive Net54baseball Sports (Primarily) Vintage Memorabilia Forum incl. Game Used 19 08-27-2007 10:18 AM
Phila A's signed ball and T206s from an estate auction Archive Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 2 06-20-2006 09:36 PM
Charles Conlon Estate Archive Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 4 08-06-2002 11:59 PM


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 06:54 PM.


ebay GSB