Ok I have seen enough JOEY FARINO board member

[Clutch-Hitter]

What about the fake Jordan? A few years ago I heard of a guy selling DVDs through other legitimate IDs. He put out an ad requesting people list items on ebay and when the buyers did not receive the items, the innocent seller became the bad guy.

Sure, he started getting his feet wet, but progression seemed to be predictable. He lost money on many items in a short time of flipping and can possibly rationalize his behavior (to himself). But just guessing, seems like a fine fellow who is receiving random criticism from multiple people who have dealt with him in the context of my best guess. Context is very important, as is the core of this board, including Sheriff Leon and his deputies.

Not a guess: Leon and Dan have been around, been there done that.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by Clutch-Hitter

What about the fake Jordan?

What fake Jordan? The Jordan on the left is supposedly the real Jordan and the one on the right is supposedly the fake. Do you know how to tell the difference between a real and a fake? I do. I'm not sure why you're calling it a fake. Newsflash: It is real! If you can't look and tell the difference, how can you call it a fake?



I think the situation was a bit fishy, but I'm not quite sure it was a scam. Think about it for a minute. Why would a scammer mail out a real Jordan RC worth hundreds of dollars (even raw)? Why not a counterfeit one? Or even an empty slab? It makes no sense.

Did it ever occur to the lynch mob mentality that the two cards above are the same card and it was re-holdered at some point and that's why the flip looks different? I know, that's too logical and it's much easier and makes for much more drama to call it a fake and a scam. People that dfon't know how to spot a fake, shouldn't refer to the card as a fake. If you're not sure how to tell the difference, please ask and I'll be more than happy to tell you.

[rainier2004]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

Did it ever occur to the lynch mob mentality that the two cards above are the same card and it was re-holdered at some point and that's why the flip looks different?

I truly have no idea as I simply break slabs open, but if/when PSA/TPG's reholder a card, not crossover a card, do they give it the same serial # or a new one?

[Clutch-Hitter]

Hey Davd,

I don't collect basketball cards and would not know the difference or care to know the difference. Thank you though. The original topic involving the card is what I was going by. I was ripped off recently, which may explain my lack of tollerance. When it comes to criminal activity, in general, of which there are no consequences and a great deal of it, I may jump to conclusions based on multiple accounts. Yes, it's all shady, and I hope the guy gets/got his act together. But clearly there WAS a problem. Your opinion is respected and was well presented.

[Clutch-Hitter]

Serial number should stay the same I believe. Know nothing about bar codes, supposed to look the same?

[Clutch-Hitter]

And which is the original holder? The good scan has what appears to be the more current font, while the one in the bad picture seems to have older font and spacing. These are questions about the holders, nothing more.

[Taxman]

You might be able to spot a fake card but obviously you can't spot a fake psa flip. The card in hand has a fake psa flip. The bar code is wrong and font on the flip is wrong. Current Scam is to take a nice looking card in a cracked slab or reproduced slab with a fake flip to appear as a much nicer card.

[Clutch-Hitter]

The card in the good scan appears to have some spots around the border that aren't on the card in the picture. Referring to spots on the card in the scan that aren't on the card in the picture and nothing more.