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Old 04-26-2012, 11:16 AM
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Thanks Peter, Richard and Quan for the input...I have added both W600's and the Ju-Ju's to the tougher list. And is JKA the issue that contains some cards that are die-cut? If so they definitely belong on the tougher list. I have come up with new designations for the categories, with a new category...see if you think it changes things amongst the various issues:

Definitely more Common:

1913 Barker Game
1909/11 Colgans E254
1915 Cracker Jack
1909/11 E90-1 batting and throwing
1910 E91-C
1909 E92 Dockman batting and fielding
1910 E93
1909 E95
1910 E98
1906 Fan Craze NL
1910/11 M116 blue
1910/11 M116 pastel
1913 National Game
1914 Polo Grounds Game


Around the same as the T206 Wagner:

1914 Cracker Jack
D322 Tip-top
E90-2
E94
E102 batting
M101-4 Sporting News and blank backs


Probably less the the T206 Wagner:


Definitely less than the T206 (should be plenty of more issues in this grouping...let us know):

All Star Baseball
Baseball Bats
D304 all backs
D381 Fleischman/Ferguson Bakery
E92 Crofts Candy both poses
E92 Crofts Cocoa both poses
E92 Nadja both poses
E101 batting and fielding
E102 fielding
E103
E104-2
E105 Mello-Mint
E107
E125 American Caramel both poses
E135 Collins McCarthy and all associated backs
E270 Tin Tops
E271 Darby Chocolates
E286 Ju-Ju Drums
E300 Plows Candy
JKA(?)
M101-4 (all backs except for Sporting News and Blank)
M101-5 (all backs)
M110
M131 Baltimore Newsboy
Orange Border batting and portrait
Reccius Icky Bob
T5
T216 Kotton, Mino and Virginia Extra (all variations)
Texas Tommy type 1 and 2
Voskamps
W555
W600 both
W-Unc 1912
Postcards: Rose Co, American League Pub, Novelty Cutlery, Vignette

Heck if I know:

BF2 Pennants
M101-2
M101-2 w/Cobb


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Old 04-28-2012, 10:44 AM
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I sorted out a few of the issues to put into the 'Probably less than the T206 Wagner' category after retitling the 'Less Than' category as 'Definitely less than'.

This was a fun little exercise...let me know if you have any additional comments about these groupings. I started this thread just to emphasize to our members how important 'demand' is in the value of a card. The demand for the Wagner pretty much tops the charts, and when you throw in all the factors that have made this card irrestible to collectors and investors over the years, it just blows away all his other cards, even the various Wagner cards that are much less common, like those in our 'Definitely less than' category. Thanks to all that made this thread so fun for me.


Definitely more Common:

1913 Barker Game
1909/11 Colgans E254
1915 Cracker Jack
1909/11 E90-1 batting and throwing
1910 E91-C
1909 E92 Dockman batting and fielding
1910 E93
1909 E95
1910 E98
1906 Fan Craze NL
1910/11 M116 blue
1910/11 M116 pastel
1913 National Game
1914 Polo Grounds Game


Around the same as the T206 Wagner:

1914 Cracker Jack
D322 Tip-top
E90-2
E94
E102 batting
M101-4 Sporting News and blank backs


Probably less the the T206 Wagner:

D304 General Baking and Brunner's backs
E101 batting and fielding poses
E103
E135 Collins McCarthy and blank backs


Definitely less than the T206:

All Star Baseball
Baseball Bats
D304 all backs besides General Baking and Brunner's
D381 Fleischman/Ferguson Bakery
E92 Crofts Candy both poses
E92 Crofts Cocoa both poses
E92 Nadja both poses
E102 fielding
E104-2
E105 Mello-Mint
E107
E125 American Caramel both poses
E135 all associated backs except Collins McCarthy and blank
E270 Tin Tops
E271 Darby Chocolates
E286 Ju-Ju Drums
E300 Plows Candy
J + K
M101-4 (all backs except for Sporting News and Blank)
M101-5 (all backs)
M110
M131 Baltimore Newsboy
Orange Border batting and portrait
Reccius Icky Bob
T5
T216 Kotton, Mino and Virginia Extra (all variations)
Texas Tommy type 1 and 2
Voskamps
W555
W600 both
W-Unc 1912
Postcards: Rose Co, American League Pub, Novelty Cutlery, Vignette

Heck if I know:

BF2 Pennants
M101-2
M101-2 w/Cobb


Brian

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Old 10-11-2016, 08:17 PM
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I'm way late to the party here, but I believe the 1915 E106 (both batting and throwing) are more rare than the T206
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Old 10-12-2016, 12:56 AM
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My thread forgetting mind definitely remembers this fun one from 4 years ago. I'm surprised we didn't think to add the E106 to the list. I believe that both poses are just uncommon enough to be put in the definitely less common grouping. Thanks Dan for bringing this thread back from the dead (just in time for Halloween).

Brian

Definitely more Common:

1913 Barker Game
1909/11 Colgans E254
1915 Cracker Jack
1909/11 E90-1 batting and throwing
1910 E91-C
1909 E92 Dockman batting and fielding
1910 E93
1909 E95
1910 E98
1906 Fan Craze NL
1910/11 M116 blue
1910/11 M116 pastel
1913 National Game
1914 Polo Grounds Game


Around the same as the T206 Wagner:

1914 Cracker Jack
D322 Tip-top
E90-2
E94
E102 batting
M101-4 Sporting News and blank backs


Probably less the the T206 Wagner:

D304 General Baking and Brunner's backs
E101 batting and fielding poses
E103
E135 Collins McCarthy and blank backs


Definitely less than the T206:

All Star Baseball
Baseball Bats
D304 all backs besides General Baking and Brunner's
D381 Fleischman/Ferguson Bakery
E92 Crofts Candy both poses
E92 Crofts Cocoa both poses
E92 Nadja both poses
E102 fielding
E104-2
E105 Mello-Mint
E106 American Caramel both poses
E107
E125 American Caramel both poses
E135 all associated backs except Collins McCarthy and blank
E270 Tin Tops
E271 Darby Chocolates
E286 Ju-Ju Drums
E300 Plows Candy
J + K
M101-4 (all backs except for Sporting News and Blank)
M101-5 (all backs)
M110
M131 Baltimore Newsboy
Orange Border batting and portrait
Reccius Icky Bob
T5
T216 Kotton, Mino and Virginia Extra (all variations)
Texas Tommy type 1 and 2
Voskamps
W555
W600 both
W-Unc 1912
Postcards: Rose Co, American League Pub, Novelty Cutlery, Vignette

Heck if I know:

BF2 Pennants
M101-2
M101-2 w/Cobb
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Old 10-14-2016, 04:41 PM
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I concur. Great thread from a few years back with some fond memories.. I also agree, from what I have seen, I feel there are probably fewer E106 Wagners of either specific pose but maybe not in total than the king of Wagners.

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My thread forgetting mind definitely remembers this fun one from 4 years ago. I'm surprised we didn't think to add the E106 to the list. I believe that both poses are just uncommon enough to be put in the definitely less common grouping. Thanks Dan for bringing this thread back from the dead (just in time for Halloween).

Brian

Definitely more Common:

1913 Barker Game
1909/11 Colgans E254
1915 Cracker Jack
1909/11 E90-1 batting and throwing
1910 E91-C
1909 E92 Dockman batting and fielding
1910 E93
1909 E95
1910 E98
1906 Fan Craze NL
1910/11 M116 blue
1910/11 M116 pastel
1913 National Game
1914 Polo Grounds Game


Around the same as the T206 Wagner:

1914 Cracker Jack
D322 Tip-top
E90-2
E94
E102 batting
M101-4 Sporting News and blank backs


Probably less the the T206 Wagner:

D304 General Baking and Brunner's backs
E101 batting and fielding poses
E103
E135 Collins McCarthy and blank backs


Definitely less than the T206:

All Star Baseball
Baseball Bats
D304 all backs besides General Baking and Brunner's
D381 Fleischman/Ferguson Bakery
E92 Crofts Candy both poses
E92 Crofts Cocoa both poses
E92 Nadja both poses
E102 fielding
E104-2
E105 Mello-Mint
E106 American Caramel both poses
E107
E125 American Caramel both poses
E135 all associated backs except Collins McCarthy and blank
E270 Tin Tops
E271 Darby Chocolates
E286 Ju-Ju Drums
E300 Plows Candy
J + K
M101-4 (all backs except for Sporting News and Blank)
M101-5 (all backs)
M110
M131 Baltimore Newsboy
Orange Border batting and portrait
Reccius Icky Bob
T5
T216 Kotton, Mino and Virginia Extra (all variations)
Texas Tommy type 1 and 2
Voskamps
W555
W600 both
W-Unc 1912
Postcards: Rose Co, American League Pub, Novelty Cutlery, Vignette

Heck if I know:

BF2 Pennants
M101-2
M101-2 w/Cobb
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