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Old 04-22-2012, 09:27 PM
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I think the Umpire was so concerned about NOT blowing a Perfect Game and having another Galarraga situation that they overcompensated and gave it to the guy on a call that goes the OTHER way 99 times out of a hundred. Nobody will remember that down the road but that was ball 4!
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Old 04-22-2012, 09:33 PM
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bud selig should reinstate the galarraga perfect game as his last act out of office.
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Old 04-23-2012, 08:26 AM
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I think the Umpire was so concerned about NOT blowing a Perfect Game and having another Galarraga situation that they overcompensated and gave it to the guy on a call that goes the OTHER way 99 times out of a hundred. Nobody will remember that down the road but that was ball 4!

I disagree. He broke the plane and offered at the pitch. That was a strike.
I fully believe that in any situation that he would have been called out on strikes.

The fact that you and I disagree, just shows that if he had called it a ball would have turned it into a Galarraga situation.
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I disagree. He broke the plane and offered at the pitch. That was a strike.
I fully believe that in any situation that he would have been called out on strikes.

The fact that you and I disagree, just shows that if he had called it a ball would have turned it into a Galarraga situation.
+1, I totally agree he swung far enough to be a strike. There is no doubt he struck out.
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Old 04-23-2012, 08:51 AM
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I disagree. He broke the plane and offered at the pitch. That was a strike.
I fully believe that in any situation that he would have been called out on strikes.

The fact that you and I disagree, just shows that if he had called it a ball would have turned it into a Galarraga situation.
I agree with the strike call. I thought at the 2:31 point of Max's video, it looks too close to being a swing to call it a ball.
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Old 04-23-2012, 08:59 AM
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I agree with the strike call. I thought at the 2:31 point of Max's video, it looks too close to being a swing to call it a ball.
Here are two angled shots. The front shot is pretty low resolution, but I still think you can see enough. From both angles he is so far into the swing that I couldn't imagine it being called anything but a strike.
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Old 04-23-2012, 09:17 AM
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Isn't that the 1st Base Umpire's call?

I don't know about still shot's but in real time it didn't even look like he unlocked his elbow to offer at the pitch.

I really doubt that's a strike call in the 3rd inning of any game.
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Old 04-23-2012, 09:26 AM
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It is technically the home plate Ump's call unless he asks for help from the 1st base ump.

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Isn't that the 1st Base Umpire's call?

I don't know about still shot's but in real time it didn't even look like he unlocked his elbow to offer at the pitch.

I really doubt that's a strike call in the 3rd inning of any game.
It is only the 1st base umpire's call when the home plate defers to him. The home plate umpire gets final say. There are many games when the batter appeals for a call by the 1st base (or 3rd base) that never makes it to them because the Home plate ump already called it.

He doesn't have to unlock his elbows. The umpire has to decide if there was intent. Ryan came around. To me he appears to break the plane. Though he seems to change his mind he came too far around to not consider it intent.

I have seen better check swings called strikes in the middle of everyday games. So I don't know where you would think this one wouldn't be called strike.
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I think the Umpire was so concerned about NOT blowing a Perfect Game and having another Galarraga situation that they overcompensated and gave it to the guy on a call that goes the OTHER way 99 times out of a hundred. Nobody will remember that down the road but that was ball 4!
I was just going to note that I was thinking about this same situation! Was something going through the ump's mind telling him that he didn't want to be responsible for a blown-call to end a perfect game like Jim Joyce did last year??

Wonder if any interviews with the ump will come out...
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I think the Umpire was so concerned about NOT blowing a Perfect Game and having another Galarraga situation that they overcompensated and gave it to the guy on a call that goes the OTHER way 99 times out of a hundred. Nobody will remember that down the road but that was ball 4!
I don't think the umpire OR the batter were prepared for the play. It amazes me how often this play comes up and the batter just stands there confused - it must have some sort of weird mental affect that just freezes them. If it's strike 3 and you give it any kind of swing on a pitch that bad, you run - it's simple.

But yeah, one pitcher (Galarraga) got the worst 'last pitch' scenario imaginable, and the other caught a break.
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I don't think the umpire OR the batter were prepared for the play.
The umpire made the call quickly. He was pointing at the batter (indicating a swing) before the ball made it into the grass behind the plate. The batter on other hand seemed more concerned in arguing the walk than running when he saw the ball get away from the catcher.
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