Wow! What a Steiner deal. $2500 for a handshake, autograph and of course a ticket

[David Atkatz]

Originally Posted by T206Collector

But you should at least consider the simple fact Jeter does more charitable work than any other Major League Player today.

Source?

[T206Collector]

Originally Posted by David Atkatz

Source?

Did you read either of the articles I posted above?

[David Atkatz]

Originally Posted by T206Collector

Did you read either of the articles I posted above?

Yeah--I read them both. Not much hard info in either. And neither of them claimed he does "more charitable work than any other Major League Player today."

Reading critically is quite a useful skill.

[Bilko G]

I will also mention that when athletes appear through another company that is in the business, like Steiner, the athlete usually never has any say in what the company charges the consumer for an auto or a personal appearance (meet and greet).

Usually the company will pay (negotiate) a flat fee and then the company will charge what they wish for the auto or meet and greet. Sometimes (very rarely but it happens) the athlete doesn't even know what the company is charging for an in person auto or meet/greet.

[doug.goodman]

Originally Posted by Bilko G

I will also mention that when athletes appear through another company that is in the business, like Steiner, the athlete usually never has any say in what the company charges the consumer for an auto or a personal appearance (meet and greet).

Usually the company will pay (negotiate) a flat fee and then the company will charge what they wish for the auto or meet and greet. Sometimes (very rarely but it happens) the athlete doesn't even know what the company is charging for an in person auto or meet/greet.

I respectfully disagree.

There is no way that the reps of anybody being paid to make an appearance would allow their client to get a flat fee that is not tied in some way to the amount being charged to the public.

As a tour accountant for touring bands, the best analogy for me would be that the cost of a concert ticket is 100% tied to the amount being paid to the band. That's not my opinion, that is a statement of fact.

Doug

[Bilko G]

Originally Posted by doug.goodman

I respectfully disagree.

There is no way that the reps of anybody being paid to make an appearance would allow their client to get a flat fee that is not tied in some way to the amount being charged to the public.

As a tour accountant for touring bands, the best analogy for me would be that the cost of a concert ticket is 100% tied to the amount being paid to the band. That's not my opinion, that is a statement of fact.

Doug

Okay, well maybe for some big celebrity athlete like Jeter this is true. I do know what i posted is FACT on certain NHL players that have appeared for signings at card shows.

[doug.goodman]

Originally Posted by Bilko G

Okay, well maybe for some big celebrity athlete like Jeter this is true. I do know what i posted is FACT on certain NHL players that have appeared for signings at card shows.

Then they (or their reps) are not very smart.

Doug

[T206Collector]

Originally Posted by David Atkatz

Yeah--I read them both. Not much hard info in either. And neither of them claimed he does "more charitable work than any other Major League Player today."

Reading critically is quite a useful skill.

Basically third-party anecdotal evidence is always subject to claims of "lack of hard info." The point, which is undisputable, is that Jeter is easily one of the most charitable, if not the most charitable, player in the game today.

If you dispute that, why don't you provide some "hard info"? You can browse 501c3 data online. Why don't you spend some of your time doing research rather than just publicly bitching about modern baseball players on an internet chat board.

Heck, I'll even take "soft info" from major news sources suggesting Jeter's charitable endeavors aren't at the top of his class.

By my count this is at least the second time you've gone out of your way to criticize the guy on a vintage memorabilia forum. You hate him like a stalker. I'm just saying.

[David Atkatz]

Sure! No problem!

You make the absurd--and totally unsubstantiated--claim that Jete's the most charitable player in the game, and I'll check the 501c3 data to see if you're right.

Kind of back-asswards, don't you think?

[T206Collector]

Originally Posted by David Atkatz

Sure! No problem!

You make the absurd--and totally unsubstantiated--claim that Jete's the most charitable player in the game, and I'll check the 501c3 data to see if you're right.

Kind of back-asswards, don't you think?

Um.... I substantiated it with news stories. You weren't convinced. You wanted hard evidence. Find it yourself.

[David Atkatz]

Originally Posted by T206Collector

By my count this is at least the second time you've gone out of your way to criticize the guy on a vintage memorabilia forum. You hate him like a stalker. I'm just saying.

And, by my count, this is at least the second time you've come to his defense. You love him like a little girl.

I'm just sayin'.

[T206Collector]

Originally Posted by David Atkatz

And, by my count, this is at least the second time you've come to his defense. You love him like a little girl.

I'm just sayin'.

Clever retort. I point out your obsession with unsolicited attacks. I come to his defense, and I'm the stalker? Makes sense.

Tell you what, you stop talking about "greedy bastard" modern players and count the number of times I ever mention a post WW2 player on this chat board after you stop. We'll call it even.

[Bilko G]

Originally Posted by David Atkatz

And, by my count, this is at least the second time you've come to his defense. You love him like a little girl.

I'm just sayin'.

No Offense to T206, but i think David wins this battle with that come back. LOL!!!!

[T206Collector]

Originally Posted by Bilko G

No Offense to T206, but i think David wins this battle with that come back. LOL!!!!

Never easy to defend the super millionaire baseball player. Like I said before, this lot has already made up its mind about Jeter. If i succeeded in showing that he is one of the most charitable players in the game today -- which was all I was trying to do -- then I'll take that pyrrhic victory.