Poll: Is this Cobb legit, or is it a "rotten peach"?

[travrosty]

Originally Posted by smotan_02

As much as I believe your opinion. I showed the auto to my dog, he wagged his tail. I believe his opinion too.

It can be scientifically proven that it is a printed copy, if that interests you. not everything is just an opinion. if the earth is round is just an opinion for you, then there is no point in converting those who don't want to know.

You didn't offer your beliefs in the company's opinion, which tells me you don't really believe it is a freehand forger's copy like psa evidently said but you are one of the defenders who run interference and want it swept under the rug. That's what we fight in this hobby. trying to clean it up is a herculean task when there are those who don't want it to be cleaned up and just want the status quo to continue.

They don't want any doubt that a printed copy can get by them, because then ANY autograph they have certed that matches exemplars and is slabbed might be called into question. There are thousands upon thousands of them out there.

Collectors know that a forgery slips by sometimes, maybe more often than the company lets on, and the company can live with that, but if collectors realize that the printed copies are getting through, then any autograph they have in a slab that they didn't see signed in person is a potential big question mark.

[drc]

My dog sniffed it and gave the verdict: Not food. Can't be more scientific than that.

[vintagetoppsguy]

My dog sniffs his butt, which smells like PSA's opinion in this matter.

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

My dog sniffs his butt, which smells like PSA's opinion in this matter.

+1,,, good one .

[smotan_02]

Originally Posted by travrosty

It can be scientifically proven that it is a printed copy, if that interests you. not everything is just an opinion. if the earth is round is just an opinion for you, then there is no point in converting those who don't want to know.

True/Doesnt Interest me/Earth is round

Originally Posted by travrosty

You didn't offer your beliefs in the company's opinion, which tells me you don't really believe it is a freehand forger's copy like psa evidently said but you are one of the defenders who run interference and want it swept under the rug. That's what we fight in this hobby. trying to clean it up is a herculean task when there are those who don't want it to be cleaned up and just want the status quo to continue.

So if Im not with you then Im against you?

Originally Posted by travrosty

They doesn't want any doubt that a printed copy can get by them, because then ANY autograph they have certed that matches exemplars and is slabbed might be called into question. There are thousands upon thousands of them out there.

Next you are going to tell me that numerical grades on PSA cards can be called into question too?!

Originally Posted by travrosty

Collectors know that a forgery slips by sometimes, maybe more often than the company lets on, and the company can live with that, but if collectors realize that the printed copies are getting through, then any autograph they have in a slab that they didn't see signed in person is a potential big question mark.

You said this, not PSA. You want to prove PSA is incompetent. You need to see the auto in person to prove this. Donovan doesnt want give you his personal property. Donovan is now part of PSA in your eyes. You want to prove them incompetent. Ahhh, the circle of life.

[drc]

In my opinion, it's Donovan's right to keep it. Why? Because it's his.

[RichardSimon]

You are right David, it is his and he can keep it or go further with it.
However I think people on this board will judge the autograph and his statements by his action or inaction. If he does not care, that is his perogative.
Most have already judged the autograph, if he wants to try to change some minds he can go further. If he does not want to change people's minds than he can do nothing and stand by all his prior statements and people will judge accordingly.

[travrosty]

Donavon,

do you have the identical williams sigs you promised a month ago?


i think this whole deal is a big stonewall. can you show the cobb cut with a current newspaper so we know you got it back as you claim?

certainly psa has sent it back to you by now?

[RichardSimon]

I am sure Donavon is a busy man but you would think that by now he mght have taken a moment to respond further to this thread.
I guess he has no adequate response about the Ty Cobb cut and the mystery story of the amazing forger will have no further explanation.
Donavon if you have been too busy to respond here,we understand. But we are hopeful that a response will be forthcoming at some time in the near future.
In the meantime I am glad I don't own an autograph that resides in a plastic tomb.

[springpin]

Kindly move this thread to the new forum. That is why it was created.