Poll: Is this Cobb legit, or is it a "rotten peach"?

[travrosty]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

I guess it depends on what they reimburse him for. It is my understanding that Donovan was the sumbitter of the item. If that is the case, they would only have to reimburse him for the authentication fees. Legally the cut would still be his. I guess they would have the option to buy it back at fair market value, but if they're only reimbursing him the authentication fees then the cut is still his.

If he were to have purchased the cut already authenticated and then sent it back in for re-evalution, then that is a different story. Then they would have to reimburse him full fair market value. At least that's my understanding of how it works.

If he was the buyer of the cut that was already slabbed, they wouldn't HAVE to do anything. They have no fast and hard rules regarding buybacks. It's up to their discretion based upon how much bad publicity they might want to receive or avoid on any one item.

They have a disclaimer saying their loa's are only their opinion, and no warranty is given, and they make no guarantee. That gets them out of any of these situations and any money given to anyone is voluntary on their part.

I would be surprised if they gave him the cut back and didn't buy it from him. maybe that is why it is being destroyed immediately, so we can't see it first.

I want to see it when it comes back.

[David Atkatz]

It ain't comin' back.

[RichardSimon]

Don - the poll stands at 37-5, basically that means the vast majority of the people who voted do not give any credibility to your version of events. That is the most overwhelming vote I have ever seen in a pole on Net54.
You have stated there is a visible impression on the back of the autograph, made by a pen. If the autograph was printed by machine, which is what most believe, then there should be no impression. So these people are all saying they doubt your story.
A word of advice - if your story is true, and you know it to be true, take a picture of the signature with a current newspaper and post that here and then ship the autograph to me or Travis. I will be happy to reimburse your shipping expenses.
Otherwise there will always be doubts about you and your entire story. The story of the cut appearing in an estate sale with old cards, the story of PSA and the amazing forger who fooled them and everything connected to this will always be doubted. Your future actions in the hobby will always carry this story with them. You have backed yourself into a position where you have to prove your innocence. I know that is contrary to the American way but that is how things have turned out here. And it is quite easy for you to prove your innocence. Extraordinarily easy as a matter of fact. And please, don't repeat the story of being afraid the cut will get lost or that I will do something with it. Nobody here gives those stories any credibiliy at all. Those stories just make you look much worse and tend to make people totally disbelieve whatever you say.
Don the ball is in your court now.
What will you do?

[smotan_02]

When did a witch hunt become part of the hobby? Stock up on your game used pitch forks.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by smotan_02

When did a witch hunt become part of the hobby?

Maybe after deception became part of the hobby?

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

Maybe after deception became part of the hobby?

+1

[smotan_02]

That is just it. Donovan has not openly deceived anyone. He has been completely open and honest. A deceptive person would have carried on with the sale. You take his lack of posting as deception and tell him he must "prove his innocence" What?! Give me a break. Like most of us the guy has a job, he doesnt have time to ask how high when you say jump. It's his cut, if he wants to burn it, frame it, make an airplane out of it, roll it into a cigar and smoke it, then that is his business. You want to hold your breath and stomp your feet because he wont send it to someone that he doesnt know and let alone know their motives. You poll was right, way to go, high five each other, the auto is a fake. Let it go. You guys can have your autos, this is too sad for me.