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View Poll Results: What do you think of this PSA slabbed Ty Cobb signature?
It is an exact replication of Ron K's Ty Cobb autograph 43 75.44%
It is a very similar, but totally different autograph as the owner has claimed 5 8.77%
Undecided 9 15.79%
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Old 04-11-2012, 01:22 PM
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Sorry Karl, here is the term that was used by PSA according to a post by Don (in the BST thread):
"it seems that there is an amazing forger out there."
they said amazing, I said master,,, I say tomato,,they say tomatoh,,,,etc.,etc.
If I am guilty of exaggeration, well then I am sorry about that.
And as for other comments in this thread by chad, if PSA examined this piece originally and deemed it authentic, then examined it again and realized what they did, don't you think that they dont want the entire hobby world to know that they blew it to an HP printer. Would they not prefer the hobby to think they blew it to an "amazing forger." (whose pen skipped in the exact same place that Cobb's did in the original 3x5 sig. in Ron's collection). I think that would be the very definition of a coverup and the coverup always turns out to be worse than the original mistake, just look at your history books.
And I think it is pretty amazing that an "amazing forger" drops his best work in an estate sale, mixed in with some Goudey cards. Just the place where he can minimize his money.
Where else has his work appeared??? If he is truly amazing and truly a human, then you would think that his work would be all over the hobby. If the forger is truly amazing and not a human perhaps there are many other examples of his work out there that have slipped into the hobby the same way that the Cobb cut has. I can hear the sound of hammers now, cracking open those plastic tombs.
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Old 04-11-2012, 02:07 PM
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Here is the relevant phrase by donavon.,,


The cut was, in fact, deemed a forgery. After a lengthy discussion with the operations manager, it seems that there is an amazing forger out there. The cut was not a laser copy as previously speculated, but a well made forgery by someone with a very skilled hand.


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note he said it was not a laser copy, it was a hand copy by a great forger. The guy was so good and thorough that he made sure to copy the stray dots in the background too!

It is impossible to copy it exact like that by hand, and is baloney.

so thats why we would like to inspect it.

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Old 04-11-2012, 02:42 PM
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It is a BS explanation for Sure, unless the "forger" put the green dots in the EXACT place etc. Id say its laser..haha.

PSA is trying to save face on the laser issue.. oh well.
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Old 04-11-2012, 02:44 PM
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For people on this board who haven't seen it, here is

1. Ron's cobb

2. the cut cobb with circles around dots in the background that correspond to the same dots in Ron's example.

3. the cut cobb without the circles so you can look for them.



For it to not be a computer printed copy is not possible. The background was scanned and printed out too.
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Old 04-11-2012, 03:00 PM
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I'd go so far as to say that Donavon can't send the cut to Richard, because he doesn't have it, and will never have it. I'm sure that PSA told him he'd be reimbursed only if they (PSA) kept the item.
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