Just makes you want to cry...

[HOF Auto Rookies]

Say it ain't so Joe...

[E93]

I posted a comment that I doubt will get through the moderator. This kind of stuff appalls me! Should we chop up the Mona Lisa? How about chopping T206 Wagners into 100 pieces?
JimB

[gnaz01]

Originally Posted by E93

I posted a comment that I doubt will get through the moderator. This kind of stuff appalls me! Should we chop up the Mona Lisa? How about chopping T206 Wagners into 100 pieces?
JimB

Jim,

Your comment made it through the mods, now let's see how long it lasts

[bender07]

Originally Posted by E93

I posted a comment that I doubt will get through the moderator. This kind of stuff appalls me! Should we chop up the Mona Lisa? How about chopping T206 Wagners into 100 pieces?
JimB

Looks like you got through...agree with your sentiments...

[zljones]

That's a card? And also talk about exploiting the hobby. Destroying a piece of history just to make money off of the pieces of it, and calling it card collecting. This insert revolution has gone too far. It was exciting in the days of the 1990 Upperdeck Heros Reggie Jackson Auto, and the 1991 Donruss Elite set, but now it has gone too far!

[GaryPassamonte]

I could not agree more, Jim. Destroying these great pieces of sports history is disgraceful and almost criminal. I like the Mona Lisa analogy. Who would think that that would be a good thing? How about the Declaration of Independence? There are lots of good signatures there.

[drc]

That's the worst Joe Jackson signature I've ever seen. The singer or the player.

[HOF Auto Rookies]

Originally Posted by GaryPassamonte

I could not agree more, Jim. Destroying these great pieces of sports history is disgraceful and almost criminal. I like the Mona Lisa analogy. Who would think that that would be a good thing? How about the Declaration of Independence? There are lots of good signatures there.

Well, not to argue but there is more than one Joe Jackson bat. Regards to Mona Lisa and Declaration, that's it, that's the only one. Buuuuuut you can argue about I think they cut up Josh Gibson's only known bat.

Regardless, it's still ridiculous, can't hold that bat in your hands now anymore, swing it, and sort of re-live the past anymore thinking "wow, Joe did some work with this"...

[Orioles1954]

Donruss cut this bat up in the early 2000s. There are not many bats being processed by the companies at this point as the modern hobby simply has moved on.

[E93]

Originally Posted by HOF Auto Rookies

Well, not to argue but there is more than one Joe Jackson bat. .

Actually, I don't think that is true. I think there were two. Now there is one. Maybe the bat collectors know more about this. There was the black betsy and one other that sold a couple of years ago (this one?).
JimB

[doug.goodman]

My comment post may not make it past the moderator :

A stupid “card” created by stupid people who don’t care about our stupid hobby

Originally Posted by HOF Auto Rookies

Regards to Mona Lisa and Declaration, that's it, that's the only one.

Not true about the Declaration. There are a few known examples, but none the less still a disgrace to destroy history for monetary gain. I do think a wacked up Wagner is a good idea though. That card is over valued anyways and not all that "RARE." Plank should be valued well above Wagner IMO.

[Gary Dunaier]

Originally Posted by HOF Auto Rookies

Well, not to argue but there is more than one Joe Jackson bat. Regards to Mona Lisa and Declaration, that's it, that's the only one.

Originally Posted by Pup6913

Not true about the Declaration. There are a few known examples, but none the less still a disgrace to destroy history for monetary gain.

I think HOF Auto Rookies was referring to the copy that was actually signed on or around July 4, 1776, not the Dunlap broadside which was the first published copy of the document.

[irishdenny]

Thanks fir pointing this out. It always uP sets me when, we as preserver's of the Past, Do something Extremely Foolish.

Letting Everyone involved Know that we as Hobby Preserver's Need to do a Better Job of Taking Care!

Let the Fireworks Begin

[cobblove]

Why cant the card just be a voucher to own the entire bat!!
FedUP

[MVSNYC]

Originally Posted by E93

I posted a comment that I doubt will get through the moderator. This kind of stuff appalls me! Should we chop up the Mona Lisa? How about chopping T206 Wagners into 100 pieces?
JimB

+1

[oldjudge]

Is the George Washington hair card pubic or cranial? Seriously, I think these kind of acts are a travesty. If a home is declared an historic site then the owners are precluded from altering it. Why not have a similar classification for historical artifacts. Once declared such they cannot be distroyed. Write your congressman!

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by oldjudge

Is the George Washington hair card pubic or cranial? Seriously, I think these kind of acts are a travesty. If a home is declared an historic site then the owners are precluded from altering it. Why not have a similar classification for historical artifacts. Once declared such they cannot be distroyed. Write your congressman!

Just what we need, more laws and regulations!!!

[travrosty]

I don't understand why they don't chop up a wagner, or a 52 mantle, its the same principle. they are not chopping up superman #1, or spiderman #1, are they?

Why take a Wilt Chamberlain Philadelphia Warriors jersey, an incredible piece, and chop it up and totally destroy it? It doesn't make any sense.

Let's raid the Smithsonian and cut up Lincoln's stovepipe hat so people can have a piece of it on a card. It's short term, profit driven, greedy thinking.

Destroying our sports heritage and history for a quick buck.

A multi-billionaire could buy up every single important sports artifact, vintage card, at every auction house in the nation for a decade, and take all that stuff, put it into a big bonfire and burn it, because it is his to do with what he wants. But who would support that? Just because he can, it doesn't make it right.

Jeff Goldblum in Jurassic Park had a good line. "Yeah, but your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn't stop to think if they should"

[kcohen]

Originally Posted by oldjudge

Is the George Washington hair card pubic or cranial? Seriously, I think these kind of acts are a travesty. If a home is declared an historic site then the owners are precluded from altering it. Why not have a similar classification for historical artifacts. Once declared such they cannot be distroyed. Write your congressman!

I'm given to understand that it was a nose hair.

[yanksfan09]

Originally Posted by kcohen

I'm given to understand that it was a nose hair.

You beat me to it, I was just gonna type that!

[yanksfan09]

Maybe someone will extract some usable DNA in a few decades and test whether or not it's George Washington's' hair. They can make a clone and see what grows....my guess is that it wouldn't be our first President.