Can you believe this garbage?????

[gnaz01]

Graded by PRO, I don't think I am outing anything here that everyone will see anyway.

http://www.myccsa.com/Lot/231/1911-1...d-ex-mt-6.aspx

[barrysloate]

A $47,000 card with a current bid of $87.

[michael3322]

Greg. I couldn't agree more. But bringing up Coach's Corner here just seems to make everyone frustrated and upset about the fakes they peddle.

[Fred]

What if it's real..... snort,, snort....

[2dueces]

I understand CC stuff is garbage. I'm sorry I'm not familiar enough with this card. Are you saying it fake in a PRO holder or just drastically over graded. With your reactions I'm assuming it fake. I know PRO is famous for over graded and trimmed cards but they don't know a fake when they see one either? Thank goodness I found this forum 7 years ago when I began my quest for T206 portraits. The first card I ever bought was a PRO T206. . Low grade and cheap but it was the last I ever looked at thanks to you guys. Still have it though.

[fkw]

FWIW Ive never seen a (known) fake in a PRO holder....

only trimmed and overgraded cards like mentioned earlier...

[Leon]

Originally Posted by 2dueces

I understand CC stuff is garbage. I'm sorry I'm not familiar enough with this card. Are you saying it fake in a PRO holder or just drastically over graded. With your reactions I'm assuming it fake. I know PRO is famous for over graded and trimmed cards but they don't know a fake when they see one either? Thank goodness I found this forum 7 years ago when I began my quest for T206 portraits. The first card I ever bought was a PRO T206. . Low grade and cheap but it was the last I ever looked at thanks to you guys. Still have it though.

Hard to tell from the scan but we can assume ANY higher grade card, and/or valuable card, in a PRO holder is either fake, trimmed or altered. That card won't sell for more than a couple dollars in a PRO holder....but the description of other auctioned ones is probably accurate. If you have a legitimate card it won't be in a PRO holder, 999 times out of a 1000. Kind of like buying a T206 Wagner on Craigs list.

[fkw]

The problems with this auction is they dont show the card in the PRO slab. Id like to see my first fake in the holder...
Ive seen a few dozen fakes in PSA slabs (many blue tint Fro-Joys, M101-5 Ruth etc.), but never one in a PRO slab

I actually bought a nice Tango Jennings is a PRO slab before and crossed it.

here is my only PRO card I have now... my "cutting board slabbed" 1948 Ruth


holder is a cross between a SGC and PSA slab and very thick and high quality (but way too heavy and large)

[scooter729]

Frank, I'm guessing that's an old picture, because I believe I am currently the proud owner of that E95 Cobb in your picture! Or at least yours has an identical crease across the face as mine....

[fkw]

ya Scott very old, I had the E95 just for size comparison Id guess the pic is about 6 years old or so....

[michael3322]

I always worry about the newbies who aren't familiar with Coach's Corner.

So, for any who aren't...

Coach's Corner Sports Auctions LLC BANNED on EBAY

Best coaches corner auction ever!!! [Net54 Baseball]

Or, if you simply want to apply the "common sense" test, look at the realized prices of recent items...You'll see a "Henri Matisse custom painted/signed $120,000 artwork" sold for $1323, a "Edgar Degas hand painted/original "1/2 Million" artwork" for $767, a "Babe Ruth Yankees single-signed Baseball" for $440, etc.

Putting aside their endless supply of fakes, who buys this junk?

[Wymers Auction]

Unfortunately I believe Coaches Corner becomes a wholesale supplier to crooked dealers everywhere.

[michael3322]

James, as an auctioneer yourself, does this bother you that they are polluting the supply and distorting the market?

I wonder why people haven't bought stuff from them for the sole purpose of filing lawsuits against them for facilitating fraud. Perhaps a Net54 lawyer can chime in.