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Old 03-26-2012, 05:37 PM
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AGS = A good scam. Really who would pay $25k for that.
It could happen. I have seen a lot dumber stuff. Don't get me wrong, this would have been a big mistake, but I have seen worse. Hopefully no one got burnt.
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Old 03-26-2012, 05:49 PM
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Reckon AGS will send an accompanying letter, attesting to the grading?
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Old 03-26-2012, 07:45 PM
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Just in case you couldn't afford this one, the same seller has NINE reprints of this card with a $12.95 BIN. I'm not kidding.

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Old 03-26-2012, 07:48 PM
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Well if anyone here did I will be happy to retrieve your funds for a small fee since I am out here for the week
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Old 03-26-2012, 07:53 PM
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What ? What is everyone looking at ?

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Maybe this sale was staged to make the reprints sell easier.
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Old 03-26-2012, 08:43 PM
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I am the buyer. For years I have been buying PSA & SGC cards and paying to have them crossed over to AGS holders. I couldn't pass up an opportunity to buy this beautiful Ruth card; especially considering the $25 I saved on grading fees.
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Old 03-26-2012, 11:24 PM
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I'm not the buyer, but I've purchased genuine Ruth cards from this seller before, and I've always thought that he was honest. Besides it being in an AGS holder, what do the others see that is wrong w/ the card. The scans are fuzzy, unfortunately, but it does seem as if the foot is showing for Ruth. I've attached pictures of the card from the ebay auction.
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Old 03-27-2012, 11:29 AM
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This picture shows an authentic Ruth. You can find this picture and additional photos of fakes at the "Detecting Card Alterations and Reprints" link at the top of the page.
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My hunch, seller purchased his own card, through an alternate dummy purchasing account, and he'll use this sale to establish "credibility" as a seller of high end vintage.

I can't imagine any collector out there with a $25k single card budget, not doing their research on "AGS"
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Old 03-28-2012, 11:37 AM
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Thanks, Todd, for your insight. I never realized the flipped back. I really can't defend this seller anymore. It's too big of a card that's obviously fake.

On another note, it was interesting to see through his past sales that he sold a Ruth ball that was authenticated by Richard Simon, who I believe is a board member here. Link

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Old 03-28-2012, 12:31 PM
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The card has been relisted:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1915-1916-M1...item3373e2b938
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I have receive a few e-mails regarding this AGS holder. Since I am not a grader nor an authenticator, I can only trust that the "professionals" at Authentic Grading Service, Inc. have done their job.

Please bid accordingly.... Thanks!

(this is a "private" listing)
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One bit of relief (or diligence on the sellers end) I saw on the listing were the following words:

"This listing has ended. The seller has relisted this item or one like this."
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