The Goodwin Plank and Magie are TRIMMED!

[danmckee]

I guess we must remember as Bruce stated, SGC has had these in their hands and we haven't. Working off of scans is much different than in person. They are nice expensive cards and will be treasured by whoever purchases them.

[gnaz01]

So, I am not going to out a current auction, but there is this card that is currently up for auction, it is a T206 Cobb Green portrait, and this is the back. The flip says PSA5 Ex, how in the heck can the back damage on this card warrant an Ex!!!!!

[danmckee]

Originally Posted by gnaz01

So, I am not going to out a current auction, but there is this card that is currently up for auction, it is a T206 Cobb Green portrait, and this is the back. The flip says PSA5 Ex, how in the heck can the back damage on this card warrant an Ex!!!!!

We have discussed this one I think. I think this one is just as mind boggling. Paperloss and glue. If it is a legit flip, it almost looks like they only looked at the front? I guess if you are rushed, it could happen.

[danmckee]

Are we missing something here?? Why are these not in psa holders? I would think the PSA registry would command more money than the SGC holder on these huge nice cards no?

[CMIZ5290]

that psa 5 cobb has been on ebay for months....that's one that psa missed badly, or the card was swapped out. hard to believe psa would miss that.

[danmckee]

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

that psa 5 cobb has been on ebay for months....that's one that psa missed badly, or the card was swapped out. hard to believe psa would miss that.

I agree, I would bet on the swap job before a miss like that.

[CMIZ5290]

yes, i would too. no way psa misses that, let alone on a green cobb!

[danmckee]

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

yes, i would too. no way psa misses that, let alone on a green cobb!

Quite honestly, I would shocked if they missed that on a common even!

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

yes, i would too. no way psa misses that, let alone on a green cobb!

They've missed worse. I've posted this before, but here's a PSA 6 with paper loss on the front. It belonged to a fellow board member and I know the card wasn't swapped.

[CMIZ5290]

Maybe psa thought that was an earring!

[theuclakid]

SGC is not infallible but I still trust them or PSA more to get the Authenticity right (maybe not the grade though) than for me to just be able to see the card through the holder....now if I could view the card raw, and see the edges clearly etc.......then I would trust my expertise or any collector/seller who has handled and viewed closely a lot of these cards and knows what to look for....if you are a novice, I would say you have to trust the grading company for authenticity, even though they not infallible...when I buy any graded card, ideally, I just want to be concerned about the grade along with the price, and not to have to be concerned if the card is 100% authentic..Bruce Perry

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by theuclakid

SGC is not infallible but I still trust them or PSA more to get the Authenticity right (maybe not the grade though) than for me to just be able to see the card through the holder....now if I could view the card raw, and see the edges clearly etc.......then I would trust my expertise or any collector/seller who has handled and viewed closely a lot of these cards and knows what to look for....if you are a novice, I would say you have to trust the grading company for authenticity, even though they not infallible...when I buy any graded card, ideally, I just want to be concerned about the grade along with the price, and not to have to be concerned if the card is 100% authentic..Bruce Perry

Bruce, you are the man they are looking for - they should thank you for the ear-to-ear smiles you just gave them.

Look for my forthcoming article: "Through a Slab Darkly"

[danmckee]

Originally Posted by theuclakid

SGC is not infallible but I still trust them or PSA more to get the Authenticity right (maybe not the grade though) than for me to just be able to see the card through the holder....now if I could view the card raw, and see the edges clearly etc.......then I would trust my expertise or any collector/seller who has handled and viewed closely a lot of these cards and knows what to look for....if you are a novice, I would say you have to trust the grading company for authenticity, even though they not infallible...when I buy any graded card, ideally, I just want to be concerned about the grade along with the price, and not to have to be concerned if the card is 100% authentic..Bruce Perry

Let's not forget the fake National Game card that was SGC graded nor the couple postcard fakes that were SGC graded!

Very sad work in my opinion no matter what Leon says!

NOT Consistant at all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[travrosty]

1995 SCD auction from the national showed this Plank,

It looks oversized to anybody?

Since it was raw when it was sold, could it have been cut down and put in a slab? Other possible oversized ones out there could have followed suit?

Does anybody know where this card is today? Can the experts weigh in?

The description says it is factory miscut by putting a bowed sheet into the cutter.

[bxb]

Originally Posted by danmckee

Are we missing something here?? Why are these not in psa holders? I would think the PSA registry would command more money than the SGC holder on these huge nice cards no?

Do we know whether these cards were submitted to PSA first and rejected, and if so is there any way to find out...