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Old 03-20-2012, 09:21 PM
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Do you have card 145 yet ?
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Old 03-20-2012, 09:24 PM
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Old 03-20-2012, 09:29 PM
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Very funny there is not a card#145 in the set. I was thinking that when i see it but checked anyway... If u by chance have this deleted card please share.
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Old 03-20-2012, 09:34 PM
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Card 145 was supposed to be Ed Bochee
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Right. He is on the Phils team card checklist as 145 but latter checklists leave that number blank. Topps apparently canceled the card after his suspension from baseball for legal issues. A lot of us have looked for a possible proof card or a card that may have been part of an early run before such cancellation, but none apparently exist .

I only raised it because I know a couple of creative guys currently working on a mock card 145.

There are several early 50s Topps sets with missing numbers. Some initially suspected Topps of "creating" missing numbers on purpose to keep kids buying packs to find the missing cards, but it appears most of the missing cards were the result of contract disputes with Bowman over exclusive player rights. But Bouche was intentionally pulled following his legal difficulties after his very good 1957 season.

Good luck with finishing the set, it was the second set I finished and the first one I started...in 1958. I have some dupes but not in the condition you need since they were cards I upgraded later.

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Old 03-21-2012, 10:37 AM
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Right. He is on the Phils team card checklist as 145 but latter checklists leave that number blank. Topps apparently canceled the card after his suspension from baseball for legal issues. A lot of us have looked for a possible proof card or a card that may have been part of an early run before such cancellation, but none apparently exist .

I only raised it because I know a couple of creative guys currently working on a mock card 145.

There are several early 50s Topps sets with missing numbers. Some initially suspected Topps of "creating" missing numbers on purpose to keep kids buying packs to find the missing cards, but it appears most of the missing cards were the result of contract disputes with Bowman over exclusive player rights. But Bouche was intentionally pulled following his legal difficulties after his very good 1957 season.

Good luck with finishing the set, it was the second set I finished and the first one I started...in 1958. I have some dupes but not in the condition you need since they were cards I upgraded later.
Al, what were his legal difficulties? Bouche have a Topps card in following years?
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Old 03-21-2012, 10:56 AM
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Yes, he has a nice 1959 card, but after a very promising rookie year he pleaded guilty to a morals charge involving some young girls. He was then suspended by MLB, but reinstated in July of 1958. If you google his name you will find accounts of the incident, which if it occurred today would likely have ended his career on the spot and may have resulted in prison time and a sex offender label. After this incident his career tailed off dramatically.

He also had Topps cards in 1960, 1961 and 1962 l. Bob Lemke has just posted a custom 1958 Ed Bouche "card that never was" # 145 on the CU board

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Here's my custom creation of a '58 Bouchee #145
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