A Jimmy Spence authentication question.

[GrayGhost]

Um. we think you have made your point sir.

[Mr. Zipper]

Originally Posted by GrayGhost

Um. we think you have made your point sir.

And what was it?

Was every one of those Ruth balls supposed to be fake? Or was the game to guess which ones might be fake?

Amazing how Travis has suddenly become a pre-eminent Babe Ruth expert and can suss out the slightest nuances that other authenticators take years to learn. So for whom is he an errand boy? Why doesn't that person come forward with his opinion himself?

[David Atkatz]

Hey, Steve. Look at those two pencil Ruths on the napkin pieces. Think they're good?

[travrosty]

Originally Posted by David Atkatz

Hey, Steve. Look at those two pencil Ruths on the napkin pieces. Think they're good?

Yes, please tell us if these are good Ruth auto's on the napkins.

[Mr. Zipper]

Originally Posted by David Atkatz

Hey, Steve. Look at those two pencil Ruths on the napkin pieces. Think they're good?

I don't provide an opinion unless I am confident in it. I never claimed to be a Ruth expert.

Perhaps whoever is directing Travis can provide some tips and insights as to why the signatures in question are suspect and then Travis can copy and paste the info here. I'm always willing to learn.

[travrosty]

Originally Posted by Mr. Zipper

I don't provide an opinion unless I am confident in it. I never claimed to be a Ruth expert.

Perhaps whoever is directing Travis can provide some tips and insights as to why the signatures in question are suspect and then Travis can copy and paste the info here. I'm always willing to learn.

I post my own stuff and at my own direction, but you can feel free to report back to psa and jsa.

[travrosty]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...vip=true&rt=nc

Another winner Ali from the world experts. They are so good at their job I am just in awe on a daily basis.

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by travrosty

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...vip=true&rt=nc

Another winner Ali from the world experts. They are so good at their job I am just in awe on a daily basis.

But Travis can never criticize Chris Morales for certing in the hundreds (maybe thousands) the below Muhammad Ali.

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[travrosty]

Originally Posted by Mr. Zipper

And what was it?

Was every one of those Ruth balls supposed to be fake? Or was the game to guess which ones might be fake?

Amazing how Travis has suddenly become a pre-eminent Babe Ruth expert and can suss out the slightest nuances that other authenticators take years to learn. So for whom is he an errand boy? Why doesn't that person come forward with his opinion himself?

Why are you all confused, they all have psa and jsa certs, so they are all good, right? I said they were tough and I didn't know and I asked people to ask Ron K. or Hall of Shame if they wanted an opinion on it. I didn't hide that post. Why are you accusing me of being secretive when it's right there in black and white?

How do you know other authenticators have learned anything about ruth over the years? Maybe I have been learning for years? Do you know me?

You seem to know the authenticators and their Ruth skills? Have you sat down with them and had them explain Ruth to you? Why do you know so much about who knows what? Did you question Chris Williams when he commented on how horrible that Cy Young signed baseball was? (after the baseball guy said the ball was not of Young's era.) Why didn't you question his Cy Young authentication skills when he all of the sudden became a Cy Young expert? I'm not ripping on Williams, because if he says he knows Young, He might, I don't care.

After the ball guy said it wasn't manufactured while Young was alive, Chris commented that it was a horrible forgery. Now since he knew it was a forgery, he could have said it was a very clever forgery that would fool most everybody, but he said it was a horrible forgery, which means he was putting his Cy Young authentication skills to use, but I didn't hear you chime in asking how he got to be the pre-eminent Cy Young expert. Why do you have an agenda?

Why can't you play fair and question everybody the same? Why doesn't PSA or JSA EVER come on here to explain themselves, it just seems to be friends or associates that do. Who are you fronting for? Anybody?

Only Spence and Grad can know Babe Ruth's autograph I guess? If I would have hid the certs on these and said they all came from you know who and you know who's auction, they would all be called junk. Everyone knows it. But since they are psa and jsa, don't say anything, keep quiet and make sure to try to question and harangue the guy who is bringing it to people's attention. Typical tactic, it's never about the autographs for those who want to protect the status quo.

go to page three here

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...+forged&page=3


didn't this interest you?

psa says this bad babe ruth would fool most. then I show an ad where they tout their autograph grading service showing the same type of Babe Ruth certed by them. Wow, what world experts! They got light years on everyone else.


But please criticize me, it must have been my fault they did that.