Question About 52 Topps Printing.

[ALR-bishop]

Print defects, variations, errors and variants of all kinds are endless. I only worry about them once they are listed somewhere like SCD, Beckett or the Registry. With Bob L retired SCD may now be a closed book. Would a grading company recognize a variant in slabbing a card if it did not first have hobby recognition from some source ? I am not a graded guy but would think maybe not

[Republicaninmass]

I personally would ask for it to be labeled "partial black star" if it is any less than 100% visible, I wouldnt think a master set would need to have this included, but if they consider a t205 Matty Hassan back error a variation, anything is possible

[ALR-bishop]

If you use SCD, or Beckett, or the Registry checklist for your master set ( which is what I do) you at least have a finite parameter. If all variants, listed or not, are included in what one considers to constitute a master set, then no master set will ever be complete. It may only matter from a Registry standpoint since for the rest of us we can always define a master set anyway we want

Ted--- I would think if you can get PSA to grade it with some special designation and add it to their Registry checklist, it would not only be part of the definition used by many or most for inclusion in master sets, but also a lot more valuable .

I mentioned that I have a 52 Campos with a portion of the front top border missing, and that card ( not mine) was written up and pictured in an SCD article. Yet it is still not included in any master lists I know about , and for that reason just another oddity without much recognition or value...except to me and whoever has one

[Republicaninmass]

Ther are many throughout the 52 set, as there are other sets. Recently it appears the 52 Frank House Yellow tongue has been going for huge money, however just not being included in a checklist, doesnt mean people dont want it...BUT the registry is a powerful drug!

[ALR-bishop]

I have that one, as well as the 52 Woodling and Scheib border breaks, but the run on those, and the price increases ( particularly on the House), happened only after Bob Lemke wrote them up in SCD articles. The Woodling and Scheib are just print defects, and he so labeled them. But I think Bob was leaning towards categorizing the House as a variation therefore making it a bigger deal. It would help if you can get it written up somewhere. Maybe Bob or Dave Hornish would take an interest in their blogs

I wish you the best on your Campos. I's a neat item, and if Keith is right maybe a missing link between the regular and black star Campos

[toppcat]

Originally Posted by ALR-bishop

I have that one, as well as the 52 Woodling and Scheib border breaks, but the run on those, and the price increases ( particularly on the House), happened only after Bob Lemke wrote them up in SCD articles. The Woodling and Scheib are just print defects, and he so labeled them. But I think Bob was leaning towards categorizing the House as a variation therefore making it a bigger deal. It would help if you can get it written up somewhere. Maybe Bob or Dave Hornish would take an interest in their blogs

I wish you the best on your Campos. I's a neat item, and if Keith is right maybe a missing link between the regular and black star Campos

I'm not sure I have it in me to tackle Topps printing variations

[ALR-bishop]

I guess I did sort of throw you under the bus