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Old 02-24-2012, 05:44 PM
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Has Heritage responded to this?

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Old 02-24-2012, 06:15 PM
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Items sold by Leyritz's wife came with a LOA from her not from Jim. Most of these items were absolutely authentic.

There were two items we have knowledge were sold by her that we are selling now: (1) the 1996 walk off HR bat which John Taube has independently viewed video evidence to prove our bat is authentic and the other one is a fraud (take time to review the amazing work that was done to identify spexific ball transfer marks from the two foul balls and the home run which leaves NO DOUBT) and (2) this ball.

More information to come as we work through this.

I am happy to answer any specific questions interested bidders may have. I can be reached at dallen@legendaryauctions.com
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Old 02-24-2012, 06:19 PM
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Items sold by Leyritz's wife came with a LOA from her not from Jim. Most of these items were absolutely authentic.

There were two items we have knowledge were sold by her that we are selling now: (1) the 1996 walk off HR bat which John Taube has independently viewed video evidence to prove our bat is authentic and the other one is a fraud (take time to review the amazing work that was done to identify spexific ball transfer marks from the two foul balls and the home run which leaves NO DOUBT) and (2) this ball.

More information to come as we work through this.

I am happy to answer any specific questions interested bidders may have. I can be reached at dallen@legendaryauctions.com

But in the e-mail posted your company claims that these items were not sold by his wife. Now you're saying they were but are authentic.
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Old 02-24-2012, 09:26 PM
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...my post meant that of the items we are selling two other objects purported to represent the same event were previously sold by his wife. For example she sold what she purported to be his 1996 walk off home run bat which is why we brought Taube in to confirm the one he was selling was in fact the bat.

He was able to quickly discount the one sold by his wife based on the lack of red transfer marks made from the special World Series balls.

Then through frame by frame view of game film he was able to match up the silver "13" on the knob as well as specific identification of the three red transfer marks made by the two fouls and the home run.

In my opinion this one of the most detailed authentications ever performed to link a game used ba to a specific event.

Hope that clarifies.
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Old 02-24-2012, 10:58 PM
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i thought this was about the ball. is footage of the ball even possible? how can they be sure the ball is the same one?
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Old 02-25-2012, 06:39 AM
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No it is not possible.

When Jim presented us with the properly marked bats and balls offered, which were being safeguarded by his attorney, we became aware that one bat and one ball were purported to be sold by his wife years ago. Before we moved forward on anything we brought in John Taube to nail down the bat as described. In our opinion this added credibility to his story that these game used artifacts were in fact marked and safeguarded by Jim years ago.

Normally a players word and LOA is enough but in this case we believed and Jim agreed it important to bring out a third party to verify is story.

We stand behind these items 100%.

Again please email me if you have questions.

Enjoy the auctions.
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Old 02-25-2012, 08:00 PM
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...my post meant that of the items we are selling two other objects purported to represent the same event were previously sold by his wife. For example she sold what she purported to be his 1996 walk off home run bat which is why we brought Taube in to confirm the one he was selling was in fact the bat.

He was able to quickly discount the one sold by his wife based on the lack of red transfer marks made from the special World Series balls.

Then through frame by frame view of game film he was able to match up the silver "13" on the knob as well as specific identification of the three red transfer marks made by the two fouls and the home run.

In my opinion this one of the most detailed authentications ever performed to link a game used ba to a specific event.

Hope that clarifies.
The World Series baseballs in 1999 would have been blue stamping, not red so there would be no red markings on the bat.
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Old 02-25-2012, 09:20 PM
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Read my post again....I was referencing his 96 walk off home run bat. 96 balls have red stampings.
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Read my post again....I was referencing his 96 walk off home run bat. 96 balls have red stampings.
My mistake, you are correct. This thread is just going all over the place instead of concentrating on what the original post was about, which was the last HR of the 20th century.
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