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Old 02-21-2012, 07:31 AM
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Monster Number, and intriguing idea. Thanks for posting it.

1000 is a intrinsically pleasing maximum number; it's like batting a thousand. I agree with that back there about not counting zero, 1 to 1000 is 1000 possibilities, 0 to 1000 is 1001 possibilities. If zero were to count, then everyone on the planet would have a set, most of them zero sets... Methinks we begin the count at one, like Brother Maynard read from The Book of Armaments, Chapter 2...


Would a fellow with 80 common cards swap them for a Plank? Yes. Then the Plank should count more than 80, the commons less than 1, or both. Similarly, would someone swap 240 commons far a Wagner? Oh, Yes. Then that should be adjusted, too. And aside from dollar value, the Demmitt and O'Hara cards would limit the number of 1000 sets, they should have a bit of weight, too.

I figure this process is way too far along for folks to readily accept a recalibration of the process. But it is justified, don't you think?
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Monster Number, and intriguing idea. Thanks for posting it.

1000 is a intrinsically pleasing maximum number; it's like batting a thousand. I agree with that back there about not counting zero, 1 to 1000 is 1000 possibilities, 0 to 1000 is 1001 possibilities. If zero were to count, then everyone on the planet would have a set, most of them zero sets... Methinks we begin the count at one, like Brother Maynard read from The Book of Armaments, Chapter 2...


Would a fellow with 80 common cards swap them for a Plank? Yes. Then the Plank should count more than 80, the commons less than 1, or both. Similarly, would someone swap 240 commons far a Wagner? Oh, Yes. Then that should be adjusted, too. And aside from dollar value, the Demmitt and O'Hara cards would limit the number of 1000 sets, they should have a bit of weight, too.

I figure this process is way too far along for folks to readily accept a recalibration of the process. But it is justified, don't you think?
I'll be Frank, Frank. The idea was to top out at 1000, reward the big four and keep it simple enough so that 85% of the people on this board could compute their monster number accurately in less than 48 hours.

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Old 02-21-2012, 08:46 AM
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I'll be Frank, Frank. The idea was to top out at 1000, reward the big four and keep it simple enough so that 85% of the people on this board could compute their monster number accurately in less than 48 hours.

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Wow, you ARE Frank! The "Frank"ness of this board is astounding. But the "Frankest" Frank isn't even participating!

I like the number 1,000, but you can come up with that number easily by giving some of the variations weight, without straining anyone's brains.

Here's some PSA pop numbers:

Doyle - 10
Wagner - 32
Plank - 64
Magie - 92
O'Hara St. Louis - 113
Demmitt St. Louis - 125
Lundgren KC - 162
Dahlen Brooklyn - 177
Brown Washington - 184
Lundgren Chicago - 187
Smith Chicago and Boston - 188
Elberfeld Washington - 193
Dahlen Boston - 198
Kleinow Boston - 237
Cobb Green - 550

Scott <=== guest Frank
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Old 02-21-2012, 09:03 AM
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Keep It Simple Stupid

What good is a Monster Number, if you can't Uzit?

Scott,

If you please, divide each of your cards by the inverse of the Pop and multiply by the square root of 2. Subtract .003483 for paper loss and multiply by 3 if your first name begins with S.

Touche.

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What good is a Monster Number, if you can't Uzit?

Scott,

If you please, divide each of your cards by the inverse of the Pop and multiply by the square root of 2. Subtract .003483 for paper loss and multiply by 3 if your first name begins with S.

Touche.

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Old 02-21-2012, 09:14 AM
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520--since 1976. Sad thing is---then I only needed the big three. Doyle's been added since. Can you factor that into my monster number please .
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It's just the El Principe of it. Broadleaf your horizons.

The post-count says it's working fine as-is - just ignore us disgruntled variation collectors.
Would you like a copy of my Neil Diamond CD "Sweet Caporal"?
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... like Brother Maynard read from The Book of Armaments, Chapter 2...
Excuse me, but thou err'est. Brother Maynard (Eric Idle) did not read from The Book of Armaments. He stood to the left of the reader (Michael Palin):
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Right you are, Craig. Brother Maynard announced the chapter and verse, but he was not the lector. As best as I can tell, it was "Brother Maynard's Brother" that did the reading, Michael Palin, as you said. Thanks!!!
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Just picked up this beauty http://www.ebay.com/itm/120727887564...84.m1439.l2649

My monster number went to 3! Hahaa. My signed monster number went from 50% to 33%
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... As best as I can tell, it was "Brother Maynard's Brother" that did the reading ...
Excellent Frank! I've always wondered how the reader should be referred as. "Brother Maynard's Brother" does seem appropriate, in a Python-esque sort of way.

I believe we can further revise the verses from the Book of Armaments, Chapter 2 for the purpose of this thread:

"1000 shalt be the Monster Number, and the Monster Number shalt be 1000, no more, no less. 1001 shalt not be the Monster Number, neither shalt the Monster Number be 999. 1002 is right out."



btw, my Monster Numbers are:

First Set - 600 (Magie)
Second Set - 518 (all are different backs than the First Set)
Third, Fourth, Fifth, etc sets - In progress with different backs than the First and Second Sets, but I haven't tallied them up (Brown Hindu Southern Leaguers are the toughies I'm trying to find to fill out the third set, so it's going to take a while!)

For back specific Monster Numbers I can break up the above into a Polar Bear set of 250 (Complete), a Piedmont 150 set of 233 (counting Magie, but lacking Wagner & Plank), a partial P350 set of 321, a partial SC350F30 set of 172, etc.



Now if you'll excuse me, I'm feeling a bit peckish so I'm off to feast upon lambs and sloths and carp and anchovies and orangutans and breakfast cereals and fruit bats and ... perhaps I might just have some spam spam spam cheese and spam.

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are an arse of a different color. Your first two monster numbers have been duly recorded, Brother Craig.
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I'm pretty low....My Monster Number is 33
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Excellent Frank! I've always wondered how the reader should be referred as. "Brother Maynard's Brother" does seem appropriate, in a Python-esque sort of way.

I believe we can further revise the verses from the Book of Armaments, Chapter 2 for the purpose of this thread:

"1000 shalt be the Monster Number, and the Monster Number shalt be 1000, no more, no less. 1001 shalt not be the Monster Number, neither shalt the Monster Number be 999. 1002 is right out."



btw, my Monster Numbers are:

First Set - 600 (Magie)
Second Set - 518 (all are different backs than the First Set)
Third, Fourth, Fifth, etc sets - In progress with different backs than the First and Second Sets, but I haven't tallied them up (Brown Hindu Southern Leaguers are the toughies I'm trying to find to fill out the third set, so it's going to take a while!)

For back specific Monster Numbers I can break up the above into a Polar Bear set of 250 (Complete), a Piedmont 150 set of 233 (counting Magie, but lacking Wagner & Plank), a partial P350 set of 321, a partial SC350F30 set of 172, etc.



Now if you'll excuse me, I'm feeling a bit peckish so I'm off to feast upon lambs and sloths and carp and anchovies and orangutans and breakfast cereals and fruit bats and ... perhaps I might just have some spam spam spam cheese and spam.

I'm not sure, Robin, but it appears to be a "Full Monty".

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Friendly bump for Frank. With my basic (514) set complete - my number now stands at 512 (plus 2 important reprints). Very low grade, but a number anyway. Happy collecting all.
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New number is now 574.
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