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Old 02-11-2012, 11:23 PM
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When I said "direct" I meant through Rogers archives but that is as direct as it gets, they all go through his company as far as I know. I meant that they came direct from the SN via the Rogers group. However, I was able view some of these as they were being removed from file folders for the first time and so that is what I meant as well as being direct. Some of these went straight from files to me but I had to buy them from the Rogers group etc. Hopefully that clarifies what I meant.
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From the article ...."His attorney says Rogers didn’t intend to defraud anyone but that “each fraudulent transaction was an attempt to pay someone else back.”

WOW! What does that even mean?? The guy is a dirtbag.
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So much of what he did was heavily pre-meditated and the extent he took to defraud was second to none in hobby history. He even shaved the backs off photos to make them clean then added fake stamps. He was doing things on one hand to defraud banks for millions and then on the other hand he was taking photos worth $25 and spending considerable to time to try and make them worth $50. His big schemes started years before the incident they refer to in the article so its just another lie.
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Old 11-14-2017, 02:53 PM
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So much of what he did was heavily pre-meditated and the extent he took to defraud was second to none in hobby history. He even shaved the backs off photos to make them clean then added fake stamps. He was doing things on one hand to defraud banks for millions and then on the other hand he was taking photos worth $25 and spending considerable to time to try and make them worth $50. His big schemes started years before the incident they refer to in the article so its just another lie.
No one.. and I mean no one has done more harm to the PHOTO hobby as Rodgers and there will never be a close second.

The junk/fakes he created, the archives he scattered without proper archiving(Burke/brace to name 1) and just irresponsibly flooding the hobby-> devaluing photos for a spell.
Not to mention, turning off great collectors who eventually left the hobby. It’s amazing the damage that one sociopath can do.
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I just re-read the entire thread. Rogers’ fraud is well known in the hobby now, but in 2012 Rogers’ shady dealings were only beginning to be discovered. I bought many items from Rogers’ outlets and luckily only two (I think only two) are not legitimate Conlons. I was naïve and I have learned. We all learned as more and more layers of his fraud became public. That roll of fake Christie’s/BB Magazine stickers is pretty scary.

Things I was wrong about in 2012...yikes! :

“Rogers' team is building a very solid reputation in our hobby and I can't believe that they would risk tarnishing their good name to move a few items.” It turned out that Rogers had built the absolute worst reputation in our hobby.

“risk tarnishing their good name”? It turned out that the name was never good.

“I would say that this graffiti was added to the back of the photos after these photos left Rogers' team's hands.” The fake Conlon writing was not added to the photos after it left Rogers’ hands. The fake writing was added by the Rogers team and intentionally sold as legit Conlons. Rogers obviously added the fake writing as intentional deception.

“Rogers' team would not have let these items be sold as legit Conlons.” Yes he would have sold them as legit Conlons. Pure fraud.
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In retrospect, I'm a bit ashamed too at my own naivete and support of someone who, as Ben rightly stated, has done untold harm to our hobby. It seems I should have applied my own advice of "be wary, but at the same time, please be responsible" to who one chooses to throw support as well as who one accuses.

I still find it incredible some of the small-scale frauds he apparently perpetrated, which lends further credence to the "sociopath" label. It is truly disheartening to think that his prolific output of misinformation and deceit has so polluted the sports photo collecting niche that it will take years to unravel the specifics, if they ever even all come to light. It seems there could easily be a full book's worth of material just in detailing what was faked, how, and how to distinguish the fakes from authentic material.
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