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[freakhappy]

Braves,

SGC does merit number grades on hand cut cards...they have a standard just like PSA when it comes to how much "dotted line" needs to show. I believe the line has to be present. I'm not an expert on it and you might want to search the SGC website to get exact specification.

[BleedinBlue]

I'm eating some crow on this one. This came out of an SGC 30 holder which would make it a PSA 3 MK equivalent. Not sure how this ended up in my collection to be honest with you because it's not on my purchase list. There are light pen marks on the front that didn't show up in the scan when I bought it. So, I don't appear to have an SGC 40/50 with a MK. But I do have MC cards. Tonight I can provide scans of MC cards that I know where the flips are.

Question about this card though. As I look at this scan it appears it may be a ghost image on the back. Anybody else see the image and a theory on who it may be? How should this card be graded?

[AndyG09]

Anybody else see the image and a theory on who it may be? How should this card be graded?

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Could that possibly be Conroy Fielding?

Best,

Andy

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by BleedinBlue

I'm eating some crow on this one. This came out of an SGC 30 holder which would make it a PSA 3 MK equivalent. Not sure how this ended up in my collection to be honest with you because it's not on my purchase list. There are light pen marks on the front that didn't show up in the scan when I bought it. So, I don't appear to have an SGC 40/50 with a MK. But I do have MC cards. Tonight I can provide scans of MC cards that I know where the flips are.

Question about this card though. As I look at this scan it appears it may be a ghost image on the back. Anybody else see the image and a theory on who it may be? How should this card be graded?

If the card was an SGC 30, then that would make it about right. An SGC 30 is a 2. PSA bumped it up a grade, but gave it a qualifier. In other words, SGC probably thought the card was worthy of a 3, but lowered it a grade because of the mark. Speaking of which, it actually looks more like a stain to me. If that is the case, it should have received the ST qualifier, not MK. MK is usually reserved for pen/pencil marks.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by BleedinBlue

But I do have MC cards. Tonight I can provide scans of MC cards that I know where the flips are

Sure, SGC will grade a miscut card, but the MC will be taken into consideration in the final grade. Take this '68 Mantle for instance. It looks like it would have probably graded a 4 if it had decent centering. So SGC bumped it down a couple of grades for the MC. If it were graded by PSA it would have probably graded a PSA 4 MC. SGC doesn't use qualifiers. They just knock the grade down accordingly.

I guess I just don't see your point when you say SGC grades MC cards. Should they refuse to grade them? Do you not agree with the grade assigned to the Mantle?

[glchen]

I know when I sold this card raw, it had a light pencil mark on the back, and it found it's way into an SGC 50 holder. Unfortunately, I don't have a scan of the back in the holder.

[t206hound]

Originally Posted by glchen

I know when I sold this card raw, it had a light pencil mark on the back, and it found it's way into an SGC 50 holder. Unfortunately, I don't have a scan of the back in the holder.

Without a back scan, I'd assume that the pencil mark was erased. Can't imagine it would get a 50 with the mark on the back.

[Bunker]

I thought "OC" stood for "Outstanding Card"

j/k

[HRBAKER]

Originally Posted by freakhappy

Braves,

SGC does merit number grades on hand cut cards...they have a standard just like PSA when it comes to how much "dotted line" needs to show. I believe the line has to be present. I'm not an expert on it and you might want to search the SGC website to get exact specification.

Just when I think I know what the standard is, I see something like this:



I guess it does go against the common argument that the difference btw an "8" and "9" is nearly undetectable.