Huggins and Scott Auctions ending this evening

[rainier2004]

Originally Posted by Leon

To expound on the above thoughts, there are some folks who don't have the time or inkling to mess with ebay anymore, therefore they bid strong in auctions which cater to their interests.

What exactly do these auction houses do that caters so much to these folks? I am no high roller, and as usual Im sure I am missing something. But I typically pay more in shipping, wait longer to get the item and pay more to win it in the first place. I just seem to be finding less on ebay these days and am using the auction houses more out of necessity than desire. Not trying to bag on the auction houses, just staing the truth in my limited experience.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by rainier2004

I just seem to be finding less on ebay these days and am using the auction houses more out of necessity than desire.

You answered your own question. Also, How about the dozens of shady auctions, reprints, fraud and so forth on ebay? Of course auction houses aren't perfect but you don't see the amount of issues you do on ebay, not even remotely close imo. That being said I still like ebay, even with it's pimples.

[sportscardpete]

1. Huggins and Scott is great


2. If you have the time, energy, and patience to weed through ebay, you can build a very strong collection for a small amount of money. Just my two cents.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by Leon

You answered your own question. Also, How about the dozens of shady auctions, reprints, fraud and so forth on ebay? Of course auction houses aren't perfect but you don't see the amount of issues you do on ebay, not even remotely close imo. That being said I still like ebay, even with it's pimples.

I buy plenty of stuff off ebay, AND through the auction houses - in both cases you have to dig around for the deals.

I find it interesting that some are complaining about auction house prices, and comparing them to ebay prices. I hesitate to say this, but...

...are you guys just really cheap? The items that go cheap on ebay are generally either BIN accidents (seller didn't know he could sell for more), or straight auctions with no reserves, and are almost always single cards, and are generally run-of-the-mill cards that most advanced collectors couldn't care less about. I see people complain here about the high ebay BIN's, and how they yearn for the good old days when you could see lots of straight auctions, but...

...those days are gone, and I think it's your fault. The new 'market value' is what you pay for singles from auctions like Huggins and Scott and the high BIN's on ebay (generally lowered by the 'make offer' prices and the offline email deals). The straight auctions for highly desirable cards might get up there, but rarely does anything else. By refusing to bid straight ebay auctions up to these 'market value' prices, you have effectively killed the ebay auctions for decent cards. I suspect the ones that go for high amounts in straight auctions are shilled up.

Sellers can sell their cards for what they want, using auction houses and high BIN's, so they have no need for the 'take it up the @ss' ebay auctions.

Okay, now slaughter me.

[rainier2004]

Originally Posted by Runscott

I buy plenty of stuff off ebay, AND through the auction houses - in both cases you have to dig around for the deals.

...are you guys just really cheap?

I can see your point about deals on both places, just needing to dig around, and yes I am cheap...

My comments are NOT about prices but why would you be willing to pay more for card x from an auction house b/c they "cater to you"...i dont feel they cater to me with higher s/h fees and slower ship times PLUS paying them a premium. Slaughter?

[itjclarke]

Originally Posted by Runscott

so they have no need for the 'take it up the @ss' ebay auctions..

Scott, I ended up with one of your T205's (Bresnahan). I don't have access to VCP but assume it sold for a good deal under fair market price, and was about 15-20% lower than my high bid. I'd probably also have been willing to fight some more had someone exceded my high bid, but no one did. It's a relatively low dollar card but multiplied by the number of cards in your offering (or any other true auctions) I can see how those hits would add up fast.

I've bought some really nice cards from you recently, and hope your auctions even out eventually.

Thanks,
Ian

[itjclarke]

.. re- auction houses, I received my Goodwin winning yesterday (my first), only a week after the auction closed. I was mindful of BP and shipping when I made my max bid the day the auction opened. I like that their format sort of promotes early bidding rather than waiting till auction's end to snipe like eBay. I think the price was fair, and their quick shipment far exceeded my expection based on other auction house purchases. I couldn't be happier with them, but do also see/understand previously mentioned points regarding auction houses.

[Republicaninmass]

I won the taxi driver poster, thought I did decent it will be close to 450 linen backed, copper framed and shipped

[Runscott]

Guys, I really appreciate your light-hearted response to my post .

When I said 'slaughter me', I was referring to this post, not to Sunday night when many of you actually did . It's all good - I have been testing various auction formats for slabbed and raw cards, and am still of the opinion that selling raw commons, or slabbed low to mid-grade non-rarities, individually on ebay in an auction-style format, is generally not in a seller's best interest. Thus, the high BIN's that you guys complain about.

Regarding high prices in the auction houses, I was surprised at what the complete T205 set went for in the Clean Sweep Auction Wednesday night - I had it valued at $30,000, cards priced individually. It went for about that, with the juice, me being the underbidder. Great, great set, with lots of higher-grade rarities.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by itjclarke

Scott, I ended up with one of your T205's (Bresnahan). I don't have access to VCP but assume it sold for a good deal under fair market price, and was about 15-20% lower than my high bid. I'd probably also have been willing to fight some more had someone exceded my high bid, but no one did. It's a relatively low dollar card but multiplied by the number of cards in your offering (or any other true auctions) I can see how those hits would add up fast.

I've bought some really nice cards from you recently, and hope your auctions even out eventually.

Thanks,
Ian

Thanks, Ian. No biggy - I'm glad you got the Bresnahan. I love going through huge stacks of raw cards, so I'll continue to buy those, just for the fun of it, but I'll value them a bit lower in the future. I think it goes back to childhood when Dad would buy bags of pennies from the gum ball man, and we would sort through them on the living room floor. Huge lots of raw cards are similar - you never know what oddities you might find.

[Orioles1954]

I think it's obvious that the high prices realized for last night's auction were due to the descriptions

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Orioles1954

I think it's obvious that the high prices realized for last night's auction were due to the descriptions

There were descriptions? I only look at pictures.

[Vegas-guy]

Originally Posted by Runscott

Okay, now slaughter me.

Lol! I'm pretty new to the auctions houses (just registered for most in the last 3 mo.) but from what I see some of the cards just bring crazy prices. I wouldn't say I'm cheap but I do (like most) like a deal. I guess I haven't got to the point that I can't find something on eBay yet, my collection is still pretty small and I have a lot of cards I would like to get that pop up from time to time. If the "market" price is what the auction houses are bringing I'm fine with that, I was just surprised how much higher they are?