coaches corner babe ruth red sox ball unreal!

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by D. Bergin

What I want to really know. More important then Sports Memorabilia.

Does Morales actually get work as a forensic examiner in actual court cases. If so, what does that really say about our justice system, that he can sway juries who know nothing of his shaky history.

Lovert Bassett vs. Bryan Slaven, Case No. 10 SC 3866

Chris Morales "authenticated" signed photos of Bela Lugosi, Boris Karloff and Lon Chaney that were sold to Mr. Lovert Bassett by Bryan Slaven of Autograph Central.

To make a long story short, Mr. Bassett discovered that the autographs he purchased from Bryan Slaven were forgeries (traced). Mr. Bassett actually contracted a true forensic examiner to examine the autographs he purchased and that forensic examiner discovered the autographs were traced.

Mr. Morales was called upon to testify in court on behalf of Bryan Slaven (Autograph Central) and his testimony was struck by Judge Fusz.

By the way, I was in direct email contact with Mr. Lovert Bassett, who was refunded all of his monies by Bryan Slaven.

The total amount refunded to Mr. Bassett was $7, 345.00.

[D. Bergin]

Originally Posted by thetruthisoutthere

Lovert Bassett vs. Bryan Slaven, Case No. 10 SC 3866

Chris Morales "authenticated" signed photos of Bela Lugosi, Boris Karloff and Lon Chaney that were sold to Mr. Lovert Bassett by Bryan Slaven of Autograph Central.

To make a long story short, Mr. Bassett discovered that the autographs he purchased from Bryan Slaven were forgeries (traced). Mr. Bassett actually contracted a true forensic examiner to examine the autographs he purchased and that forensic examiner discovered the autographs were traced.

Mr. Morales was called upon to testify in court on behalf of Bryan Slaven (Autograph Central) and his testimony was struck by Judge Fusz.

By the way, I was in direct email contact with Mr. Lovert Bassett, who was refunded all of his monies by Bryan Slaven.

The total amount refunded to Mr. Bassett was $7, 345.00.

Are there any cases involving Morales that aren't necessarily involved with the Autograph Collectibles market?

[Fuddjcal]

Originally Posted by thetruthisoutthere

Lovert Bassett vs. Bryan Slaven, Case No. 10 SC 3866

Chris Morales "authenticated" signed photos of Bela Lugosi, Boris Karloff and Lon Chaney that were sold to Mr. Lovert Bassett by Bryan Slaven of Autograph Central.

To make a long story short, Mr. Bassett discovered that the autographs he purchased from Bryan Slaven were forgeries (traced). Mr. Bassett actually contracted a true forensic examiner to examine the autographs he purchased and that forensic examiner discovered the autographs were traced.

Mr. Morales was called upon to testify in court on behalf of Bryan Slaven (Autograph Central) and his testimony was struck by Judge Fusz.

By the way, I was in direct email contact with Mr. Lovert Bassett, who was refunded all of his monies by Bryan Slaven.

The total amount refunded to Mr. Bassett was $7, 345.00.

A mere pittance as we all know that MORAL LESS doesn't cost the autograph community very much

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by Fuddjcal

A mere pittance as we all know that MORAL LESS doesn't cost the autograph community very much

Very true, Chuck. Fortunately, Mr. Bassett, got his money back. There was another story of "1919 Black Sox" team-signed ball certed by Morales. It originated from Coach's Corner and sold for almost 3K. It was then sold at a store on the west coast for 10K. Fortunately, the buyer did some research, and discovered it was a forgery. That buyer got their money back.

But what about the thousands of other items that are flipped for 5-20 times after the Roach's Corner purchase price where the impulse buyer still believes they own a Christy Mathewson signed baseball; or a Mike "King" Kelly signed ball; or a Geronimo cut sig; or a Mark Twain/Samuel Clemens signed letter; or those hundreds of Babe Ruth and Lou Gehrig signed bats.

Because we're always talking sports over here, we (I do) never think about all of that other crap that Morales "authenticates." Music-related autographs like Beatles signed albums; Janis Joplin, Jimi Hendrix and Jim Morrison cut sigs, letters, and lyric sheets.

You're right, Chuck, I guess those millions of dollars of crap out there don't matter.

[GrayGhost]

Its a sickness/disease and how the FBI doesn't move in on our friends in PA baffles me. I always had a weird idea to just go down to where their "office " is, and just walk in.

In all seriousness, yes, there are numbers of potentially bad balls signed by Ruth, Gehrig, Young, etc that the Alphabet kids and others have mistakenly identified, and ITS A PROBLEM

But, when you seriously look at how much has gone out of CC in the past years, its scary. Sometimes, since many smart people know that if it walks looks like dog food, smells like dog food, its not filet Minon, the prices stay low in comparison to what REAL signatures would go for. The real prob is the numbers who try and turn them to unsuspecting "local auctions" or casino stores, etc. The recently closed Americas memories at Mohegan sun here in CT used Morales and other FDE's for their stuff and I just shook my head.

I mean, the Roaches seriously have stuff that is literally either impossible to obtain or VERY hard, and nearly impossible to authenticate. Then, they throw in Witch Trial prayer teething blankets and other stuff too for a change of pace.

So, in closing, Lets not look at the CC and the like stuff and poo poo it, because its not a Babe ruth 50K ball in a major auction. Lets get rid of all this crap, and for those who love this part of the Hobby, make them feel a bit more comftorable in what they buy, and also to rely on themselves and their freelings more than just words on a piece of paper.