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Old 01-25-2012, 10:31 PM
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Unfortunately era's are not what they were in past years and never will be. That is why I look at wins not era. You won't find but a handful of pitchers with era's like Verlander. A handful at most. Pitching is always a suspect area, but I think the Tigers will add another, maybe Edwin jackson, he is available. Scherzer is much better than his era a shows. And I think Fister can win with the number of runs the Tigers will score. Porcello has always been a worry, does not throw hard enough for me, what saves him is high number of ground balls hit off of him. Another choice and I think he will get a chance this year just because of this signing, is Jacob Turner the young star in the minors.

I do think the Tigers will get to the post season again this year. The 2011 post seson was affected by all the rain we had also. Timing was off kilter for the pitching staff.

Another thing that bothers me is when Cabrera gets a hit and is sliding into a base. This will be the same thing for Fielder. Possible injuries. I guess the way to stop that is hitting home runs , about 75-80 between them I hope.

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Old 01-25-2012, 10:40 PM
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They're definitely going to hit. Cabrera is incredible and Fielder going to Detroit not only helps the team, but it's a nice story too. Every team has holes. I think they're the team to beat in the division. But I'm still rooting my Yanks to take it all. Definitely worried though. Especially since you beat us last year. Can you tell I'm still not over it?

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Old 01-25-2012, 10:42 PM
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They're definitely going to hit. Cabrera is incredible and Fielder going to Detroit not only helps the team, but it's a nice story too. Every team has holes. I think they're the team to beat in the division. But I'm still rooting my Yanks to take it all.
Ok, we'll leave it at that.

Good Luck for the upcoming season.

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Old 01-25-2012, 11:16 PM
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They better hit alot. I know Miggie will and I suspect that Prince will, even in Comerica. With Prince at first and Miggie at third, I don't see too many gold gloves being handed out in the infield. Last I looked, it seemed like Prince wasn't so much on going more than a few feet left or right. While eating lots of broccoli and carrots may help, you just can't ever call him mobile. I suspect there's going to be a lot of extra base hits down both lines.
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Old 01-25-2012, 11:23 PM
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I will miss Prince. Happy to see him in the AL though, I think Det will love him, especially for the first 6 years or so. A great hitter and a fun guy. Comparing him to his dad is unfair to Prince for a lot of reasons.

Don't forget he has two career inside the park homeruns, nothing is as entertaining as watching the fat guy run the bases!
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Old 01-26-2012, 09:16 PM
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They're definitely going to hit. Cabrera is incredible and Fielder going to Detroit not only helps the team, but it's a nice story too. Every team has holes. I think they're the team to beat in the division. But I'm still rooting my Yanks to take it all. Definitely worried though. Especially since you beat us last year. Can you tell I'm still not over it?
Yeah, Joe, I can tell.

Best wishes and good luck to your guys,

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Old 01-26-2012, 09:44 PM
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Wait...What happened to the big stick that Tony Clark had until he got to Comerica? How 'bout Juan Gonzalez' big stick in Comerica? Carlos Pena's power went off the charts once he got out of there(if you don't count the year sitting on Boston's bench). Johnny Damon had average power but it disappeared when he got there.

Point is, anything can happen when going to a new ballpark. And Comerica has a history of killing power hitters. This may or may not effect Fielder, because it hasn't really effected Miggy. But in the odd chance that it does, we better be prepared for a lot of long fly ball outs and some of the deepest singles we've ever seen in the history of the game...

V-mart's custom fit for that park. Fielder may not be.

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Old 01-26-2012, 10:00 PM
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They moved the fences in from the original dimensions, David, and Juan-Gone simply never wanted to be here. Tony Clark was just one of those guys IMO whose talent wasn't meant to last in the big picture. Prince will lose a few HR's on long balls hit to the left of the 365 marker, beyond which the fences go out rather steeply to center at 420, but he's a big boy, and doesn't need overly friendly fences to hit his 35+. My prediction for him is 36 HR's, 115 RBI's and his usual 100 or so walks, while hitting about .275 or better. He'll probably have a bit of a slow start adjusting to a new league, just as Miguel did the first couple of months here (although he ended up with 37 homers and
.292, leading the league in HR's, if I recall correctly, that year). If we could just get him to limit himself to one man to a uniform, those 9 years would look a lot better, but that's what it took to sign him.

Contrary to some of the other comments, having seen every one of Fister's starts on a great big HD screen, he seems to be the real deal and may well be a true No. 1 starter. The Tigers' pitching is weak after that, however, with Schirzer inconsistent despite having very high quality stuff, Porchello more than a bit wishy-washy, due to the inconsistent nature of the break on his sinking two-seam fastball and control from start to start, and Brad Penny gone (good riddance there--other than eating up innings, he only qualifies as a No. 5 for a well-under .500 team). We think, though, that having shored up the bullpen with Dotel, Coke firmly back in place as a quality 7th inning guy, and Valverde having learned to throw a pretty decent two-seamer to pick up the slack for a split finger that often didn't do much, that they may well have a real shot at several World Series appearances over the early years of the Fielder deal.

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Larry
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Old 01-26-2012, 10:11 PM
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Larry, I know. I was just bustin' balls. I honestly do think that Fielder will be fine for 4-6 years of that deal.. I think he barely replaces V-mart's overall, so I don't think it makes that big of a difference this year. But when Vic's back, with him, Fielder and Miggy, that's gonna be one hell of a middle of the order for the next couple of years..
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